When will the 5AC-PRISM be DFS approved?

On 12/21/2015 7:04 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Quick turnaround on the unlock codes. This thread reminded me that I still needed a code for AC Powerbeams. I filled out the form and they arrived four days later (including the weekend).

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Well frustrating day.  We moved channels on ptp while using
    another radio to run airview and site survey.   Moved  to 5190 and
    the other wisp moved to 5180....Us at 20 and him at 40Mhz...moved
    to 5275...10 minutes later he moved to 5265...so I configured  our
    scanner radio to 8Mhz and parked it on his center channel.  He
    moved to 5200 and we got speeds back up. Links are close to each
    other and parallel paths.

    On Dec 17, 2015 11:21 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I just spent an hour looking for a table like that on the ubnt
        forums.  Came back and there it is!  Thanks!

        On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Eric Kuhnke
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Max Tx power is only 18 or 19 at 64QAM 5/6 on a "M" series
            802.11n 2x2 ubnt radio anyhow... So it's not a terribly
            disaster for PTP links.

            I believe they are only +23 when operating in QPSK.


            On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Mathew Howard
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                If I remember correctly, they it drops to 16 or 17 dbm
                (from 26)... so it is a pretty huge drop.

                On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, John Woodfield
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Thats all fine and great. The question is how far
                    does it lower the TX power.

                    John Woodfield, President

                    Delmarva WiFi Inc.

                    410-870-WiFi



                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:05pm
                    To: "af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series NanoBeam/PowerBeam
                    and U-NII-1

                    Yes, once you activate the revised UNII rules, it
                    it will lower the EIRP in UNII-3, however just
                    upgrading the firmware won't change anything
                    (until you enter the key) and you can use the key
                    again to get the higher Tx Power back (and disable
                    UNII-1/2)... of course if you lose the link when
                    the power drops, that won't help you... if a link
                    is questionable, I would just try lowering the tx
                    power using test mode to see what happens before
                    you do anything.

                    On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, John Woodfield
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        With the new unlock codes and firmware are
                        they still killing the EIRP of the gear even
                        in the UNII3 bands? I've been scared to load
                        it on anything...

                        John Woodfield, President

                        Delmarva WiFi Inc.

                        410-870-WiFi



                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: "James Craig" <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>>
                        Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:29pm
                        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M series
                        NanoBeam/PowerBeam and U-NII-1

                        Hi Guys,
There are actually two sets of "DFS" unlocks. The older unlock is from a few years ago to
                        unlock DFS on RM5/NanoBridge/NanoStation.
                        Those keys will not unlock PowerBeam/NanoBeam
                        or AC products.
                        NanoBeam/PowerBeamM units will require 5.6.3 +
                        unlock codes generated in the last few months
                        (June 2015).
                        AC products can be unlocked as well, but this
                        is currently only available on 7.2/8.0 beta
                        firmware. R5AC-PTP and PTMP models are limited
                        to bands above 5470MHz due to airPrism
                        filtering. The R5-AC-PRISM will have full
                        U-NII band support.
                        If you need new codes/stickers for
                        PowerBeamM/NanoBeamM or AC products, you can
                        request them here:
                        https://www.ubnt.com/fcclabelrequest/
                        Please feel free to email me directly if you
                        have any questions.

                        On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:13 PM,
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            We have been using keys with the
                            nanostations with no problem. I cannot get
                            the powerbeams to work at all.

                            Sent from my iPhone

                            On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Ben Moore
                            <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                Yes, they are...Please check with
                                support team if they are not showing
                                up for you as could be something to do
                                with the unlock code -
                                [email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>
                                I will also ask them to chime in here.
                                Thanks,
                                Ben

                                On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM,
                                <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                wrote:

                                    So are powerbeams not capable?

                                    Sent from my iPhone

                                    On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Ben
                                    Moore <[email protected]
                                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                        Yes, datasheets are being
                                        updated (most are done, just
                                        not uploaded yet).

                                        On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:47
                                        AM, Mathew Howard
                                        <[email protected]
                                        <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                        wrote:

                                            Well, right. that was the
                                            case up until airOS 5.6.3
                                            was released... I expect
                                            they'll update the data
                                            sheets when the radios are
                                            shipping with the new
                                            firmware.

                                            On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at
                                            11:11 AM,
                                            <[email protected]
                                            
<mailto:[email protected]>>
                                            wrote:

                                                I was just stating
                                                what the data sheet
                                                says about the US
                                                version versus
                                                worldwide version. I
                                                know that we have been
                                                buying nanobeams And
                                                using them just fine
                                                we ordered powerbeams
                                                this last time and
                                                cannot do anything
                                                other than 5725-5850.
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                                                Sent from my iPhone

                                                On Dec 16, 2015, at
                                                10:50 AM, Mathew
                                                Howard
                                                <[email protected]
                                                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                wrote:

                                                    You most certainly
                                                    can use the US
                                                    radios in
                                                    5150-5250, and
                                                    whoever said that
                                                    only the world
                                                    version supports
                                                    it is wrong.
                                                    You just need to
                                                    upgrade the
                                                    firmware to 5.6.3,
                                                    and enter the
                                                    unlock key - which
                                                    you do need to
                                                    request from UBNT.

                                                    On Wed, Dec 16,
                                                    2015 at 10:39 AM,
                                                    Ken Hohhof
                                                    <[email protected]
                                                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                    wrote:

                                                        Ben, what does
                                                        “approvals are
                                                        in” mean?
                                                        I don’t give a
                                                        rat’s ass
                                                        whether you
                                                        have approvals
                                                        in. I want to
                                                        know if I can
                                                        order
                                                        equipment for
                                                        a customer
                                                        install,
                                                        upgrade to
                                                        latest
                                                        released
                                                        firmware if
                                                        necessary, and
                                                        operate it in
                                                        the 5150-5250
                                                        band.  That’s
                                                        all that
                                                        matters to
                                                        me.  Anything
                                                        else is your
                                                        internal
                                                        process to get
                                                        to what I
                                                        need, which is
                                                        a radio I can
                                                        buy from my
                                                        distributor
                                                        and send out
                                                        with an
                                                        installer to
                                                        do a customer
                                                        install off a
                                                        Rocket M5 AP
                                                        we installed 8
                                                        months ago.
                                                        When I go to
                                                        the grocery
                                                        store to buy
                                                        2% milk, they
                                                        don’t tell me
                                                        the farmer has
                                                        bought a cow,
                                                        they either
                                                        have 2% milk
                                                        on the shelf
                                                        or they
                                                        don’t.  Status
                                                        reports on the
                                                        feeding and
                                                        milking of the
                                                        cow don’t give
                                                        me something
                                                        to pour on my
                                                        cereal.
                                                        *From:* Ben
                                                        Moore
                                                        
<mailto:[email protected]>
                                                        *Sent:*
                                                        Wednesday,
                                                        December 16,
                                                        2015 10:23 AM
                                                        *To:*
                                                        [email protected]
                                                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                                                        *Subject:* Re:
                                                        [AFMUG] M
                                                        series
                                                        NanoBeam/PowerBeam
                                                        and U-NII-1
                                                        Hi Guys -
                                                        The approvals
                                                        for both lower
                                                        band and DFS
                                                        are in.  Same
                                                        w it AC gear.
                                                        Thanks,
                                                        Ben
                                                        On Wed, Dec
                                                        16, 2015 at
                                                        9:05 AM, Ken
                                                        Hohhof
                                                        <[email protected]
                                                        
<mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                        wrote:

                                                            This is
                                                            just
                                                            incredible. They've
                                                            been
                                                            screwing
                                                            around
                                                            with this
                                                            for about
                                                            8 months.
                                                            Ubiquiti
                                                            seems to
                                                            be giving
                                                            the middle
                                                            finger to
                                                            the US
                                                            market.  I
                                                            am going
                                                            to have to
                                                            look at
                                                            ripping
                                                            out some
                                                            APs and
                                                            PTP links
                                                            I put up
                                                            back in
                                                            April and
                                                            replacing
                                                            them with
                                                            something
                                                            else.  I
                                                            don't know
                                                            how to
                                                            explain to
                                                            a customer
                                                            that I
                                                            can't
                                                            order
                                                            equipment
                                                            for their
                                                            service
                                                            because my
                                                            vendor has
                                                            their head
                                                            up their
                                                            ass, that
                                                            just
                                                            reflects
                                                            badly on
                                                            me for
                                                            using
                                                            their
                                                            equipment.



                                                            -----Original
                                                            Message-----
                                                            From:
                                                            
[email protected]
                                                            
<mailto:[email protected]>
                                                            Sent:
                                                            Wednesday,
                                                            December
                                                            16, 2015
                                                            4:25 AM
                                                            To:
                                                            [email protected]
                                                            
<mailto:[email protected]>
                                                            Subject:
                                                            Re:
                                                            [AFMUG] M
                                                            series
                                                            NanoBeam/PowerBeam
                                                            and U-NII-1


                                                            Only the
                                                            world
                                                            version
                                                            supports it.

                                                            Sent from
                                                            my iPhone

                                                                On Dec
                                                                15,
                                                                2015,
                                                                at
                                                                11:06
                                                                PM,
                                                                Ken
                                                                Hohhof
                                                                <[email protected]
                                                                
<mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                                wrote:

                                                                Does
                                                                anybody know
                                                                if the
                                                                NBE-M5-19
                                                                and
                                                                
PBE-M5-300/400/620
                                                                allow
                                                                5150-5250
                                                                MHz
                                                                with
                                                                release firmware
                                                                now?
                                                                And
                                                                what
                                                                is the
                                                                likelihood
                                                                any
                                                                product I
                                                                bought
                                                                from a
                                                                distributor
                                                                today
                                                                would
                                                                support this
                                                                band
                                                                out of
                                                                the
                                                                box
                                                                without 
requesting
                                                                a key
                                                                from
                                                                Ubiquiti?

                                                                You'd
                                                                think
                                                                Ubiquiti
                                                                would
                                                                have
                                                                this
                                                                somewhere,
                                                                but I
                                                                can't
                                                                find it.






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