... What?

You probably aren't aware of this, but the engineering and backbone for
Google is outsourced. Most of the local splicing and installs are local
folks.

I have no idea about the tax portion.

Full disclosure: I have quite a bit of info on how they operate. I'd also
love to know why there's a bunch of coax running into their cage area. It's
not going to the roof... Only thing I can think of is they are streaming
the local TV content from somebody else in the building.
On Dec 22, 2015 11:28 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cox has already threatened to sue and they have stopped it.  I don’t blame
> them.  Why are these stupid cities falling all over themselves to Google to
> cherry pick the best areas when they tax and regulate the local companies
> that have much wider coverage and employ people locally.  Tempe also cut
> the really stupid deal that caused their citywide mesh to fail because they
> wouldn’t let the vendor make a profit.  This is why you keep government
> people out of private industry, they are clueless.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:25 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates
>
>
>
> Hopefully Tempe will play ball with Google soon. It would be great for the
> area.
>
> On Dec 22, 2015 9:18 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Not that what we have seen.  Fiber installations have been more expensive
> for base prices than cable.
>
> Rory
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:53 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates
>
> That depends on the area. Also, the costs are going *DOWN*
>
> EPB has 100Mbps FD FTTH for $57.99/mo. 1Gbps is $69.99/mo. 10Gbps is
> $299/mo
>
> US Internet is 50Mbps for $39.95/mo, 100Mbps for $47.95/mo, 1Gbps for
> $65/mo 2.5Gbps for $99/mo, 5Gbps for $199/mo, and 10Gbps is $399/mo
>
> CSpire is $70/mo for 1Gbps wireless (not sure how they are providing
> this), and $80/mo for 1Gbps
>
> AT&T is 80Mbps for $80/mo, or 1Gbps for $110/mo - down to $80/mo for 1Gbps
> in markets where it competes or plans to compete with Google Fiber (which
> is $70/mo for 1Gbps). That's 18 markets today, 23 markets in 1st part of
> the year
>
> Here's the Comcast xfinity 2Gbps map (what they claim anyway):
> http://www.xfinity.com/multi-gig-offers.html
>
> DOCSIS 3.1 rollouts are happening now, as well as G.FAST.
>
> Sonic in California has also been rolling out 1Gbps FTTH, although I am
> unsure of their pricing.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised to see at least 250Mbps and up in 50+ major US
> markets by the end of the year, for under $75/mo.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > There isn’t enough fiber to worry about yet.  And when they have it,
> > the costs are going up.  There is a lot of room below them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rory
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:21 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates
> >
> >
> >
> > I guess that depends on the area, the services provided to the area,
> > and the prices provided for those services in those areas.
> >
> > For example, $80 will get you 1Gbps on AT&T right now via their
> > gigapower product in some markets. In other markets, $80 gets you 12Mbps
> or so.
> >
> > Windstream, Time Warner, Comcast etc are similar depending on the
> > market you look at for each one.
> >
> > On Dec 22, 2015 3:08 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > It means it will be easier to encroach on their areas.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rory
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:43 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates
> >
> >
> >
> > This is nothing new, I think most of the cable folks have been raising
> > rates slowly but surely..
> >
> >
> > Comcast is also doing a rate hike.
> >
> >
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > 7266 SW 48 Street
> > Miami, FL 33155
> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> >
> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:36:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates
> >
> > Internet Only
> > Price changes for Cox High Speed Internet are as follows:
> > Starter will change from $34.99 to $37.99.
> > Essential will change from $52.99 to $57.99.
> > Preferred will change from $66.99 to $73.99.
> > Premier will change from $77.99 to $84.99.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Mike Hammett
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:27 PM
> >
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates
> >
> >
> >
> > *nods* The consumers hate the cable and satellite companies (perhaps
> > they should), but they should really be mad at the content creators.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:22:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates
> >
> > Anybody offering cable TV has to raise rates every year to keep the
> > same profit margin. The content costs go up every year. It's stupid.
> >
> > On Dec 22, 2015 12:15 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Cox-Also-Raising-Rates-on-Broadban
> > d-TV-Services-135937
> >
> >
> >
> > Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
> >
> > 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
> >
> > 602-426-0542
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> > www.triadwireless.net
> >
> >
> >
> > “When in doubt, gas it” – Hurricane Bob Hannah, Motocross Legend
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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