VMs have to run on hosts... kind of :)

Storage servers doing ISCSI exports, and obviously appliances.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I honestly don't care about the government reading my crap.
> If they want that kind of boredom, more power to them.
>
> My biggest concern is a failure in the cloud, or cloud hosted VM's.
>
> I recently made the mistake of letting Windows Update install a Suse network 
> driver over my KVM based VM image.
>
> That killed one of my VM's and it took me a while to figure out how to 
> recover from that.
>
> But most VM host companies do image and delta backups that make it point and 
> click restore.
>
> I can span the images across the country and bring up anywhere they have 
> locations.
>
> And I can download VM images directly from the site and they pull up in my 
> Win 10 HyperV host with a simple conversion.
>
> Quite remarkable.
>
> I wonder that anyone uses bare metal anything now days.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 3:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Exchange Server replacement
>
> I know, I know....   Let me dream a little :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 5:25 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Exchange Server replacement
>
> There's nothing stopping them from recording it off the wire and decrypting 
> it there (if encrypted).
>
> It's already being done, honestly.
>
> I understand you think it's the principle of the thing, but we live in a day 
> and age where everything we do is tracked and recorded, and there's really no 
> true way to get away from it. Someone interested enough could probably real 
> them in almost real-time.
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I just don’t want our core business email in the cloud.  We do our
>> WISP emails in the cloud but not the core.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe I am naïve, but would like to think there are certain things
>> that maybe the government might not have access to.  Nothing to hide,
>> but it’s the principle of ot
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 5:14 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Exchange Server replacement
>>
>>
>>
>> For your office? So no client email for ISP etc?
>>
>>
>>
>> I got sick of managing Exchange, so I just use cloud 365. Works fine
>> for small or large nubmers, doubt it will bail anytime soon.
>>
>> Don’t need to worry about hardware/software/domain AD etc. etc.
>>
>> It’s not too hard to manage online.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I was hosting email I used Zimbra, but now days I don’t bother
>> with client email.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 3:02 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Exchange Server replacement
>>
>>
>>
>> Our Microsoft Small Business server 2011 is getting “long in the
>> tooth” and my Unix guys are expressing the desire to explore other options.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have grown accustom to MS servers, even though they can be a resource hog.
>> I use Touchdown client with my Android phone and “if just works”
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t want to do a cloud based replacement per se.  Not comfortable
>> with my entire business email system, etc. being out in the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> Soooo…. What have you guys moved to for an Exchange type alternative?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>
>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800 office
>>
>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>

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