Back in the day, you didn’t have the appliances and the loads. You may have had a hot plate, or toaster and a radio. I think the fuse in the plug just reduces fires and shocks from faults in the plug and the appliance.
From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? It is conceivable that I'm an electrical idiot, but I still don't see how the fuse in the plug protects you. If I've got a 30 amp ring and I plug in 4 heat guns that each draw 12 amps then I have 48 amps on the circuit and I should be popping the 30 amp fuse. I would have thought that each heat gun is still only drawing its own personal 12 amp and presumably the fuse in it's plug is designed for slightly higher than that. On 1/21/2016 6:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I presumed he meant one big circuit daisy chained through the house. Perhaps one main fuse. Back in those days you would probably be fine with 50 amps for everything. So it would cut down on wiring for branch circuits. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? Very interesting. However, I don't believe the explanation about the fuses in the plug being due to a copper shortage. If I plugged in one hundred one amp devices then I would have 100 amps on the circuit, but the fused cord in individual devices wouldn't blow. We do have those shutters on new plugs in the USA (or is that just NY?). I suppose I must thank the UK. On 1/21/2016 5:49 PM, Nate Burke wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q On 1/21/2016 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I have a daughter that lives in the UK. Never understood why they need to be so large, why they have a switch. Seems like unnecessary cost etc. Fused plug is just one more thing to fail and cost you. I do like 220 everywhere. I wonder if it is referenced to earth ground? Seems like it would be safer to float it. And with 220 your wires can be so much smaller. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? If we really wanted everything to be safe we would use shuttered BS1363 (UK code) receptacles with fused plugs, even for 120VAC 15A circuits. Most people in the US have never worked with them, but they're very mechanically robust and safe. https://www.google.ca/search?q=BS1363&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjSxv2F_bvKAhULzGMKHVtQCg8Q_AUIBygB&biw=1473&bih=1004 On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> wrote: We added an addition to the quarters at the ambulance I worked for, I came in just as the electircian was finishing up and saw them all ground up. I told him I didnt want to be "that guy" but they were upside down. He explained the reason, said it was code too, but ive never verified that, but the reason makes sense, so ground up ever since for me On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: I agree with the often/soften thing... unless you pronounce soften wrong. On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: I know I am in the minority on this. Same as the proper way to pronounce the word “often”. (Rhymes with soften). I am OK with being totally right and nobody agreeing with me. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:15 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? It is definitely not upside down! what is wrong with you... On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah, probably no box, just drywall for the photo. But I would say the receptacle is upside down too. (that is a PC vs apple, red state vs blue state kind of thing) From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:11 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? Also, the way that outlet is mounted is... nice! On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: I'm pretty sure Chuck is right... a mouse is the first thing that came to my mind. On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: I’m gonna get that mouse! From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 1:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing? http://www.harborfreight.com/3-16-inch-x-33-ft-fiberglass-wire-running-kit-65326.html Click the picture of the guy at the outlet. Somebody tell us what the hell he is doing -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
