no trees on mike's dropbox acct pix...

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  From: George Skorup 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines


  If war breaks out, I'm heading to one of several we lease space on. I'm sure 
the owner won't mind.


  On 1/27/2016 12:31 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

    There are some amazing Long Lines sites in WA and ID that serve almost no 
useful purpose, now that all long distance traffic moves via fiber...  The ones 
closer to major metro areas have more tenants and more value to their new 
owners. 

    The Long Lines sites that were built solely as a means to get a PTP relay 
over a major mountain range are amazing. Built with massive diesel tanks and 
ventilation intakes 18' off the ground due to snow pack. These ones have the 
original horn antennas and not much else, maybe some VHF/UHF omni radio 
repeaters for forestry/national parks.


    Bethel Ridge WA, about 1820 meters elevation
    https://www.google.com/maps?ll=46.71724,-121.10068&z=14&t=h


    Goldendale WA
    https://www.google.com/maps?ll=45.99800,-120.69536&z=14&t=h


    Leadore ID, one of the highest I can find, it's at 2750m elevation
    https://www.google.com/maps?ll=45.99800,-120.69536&z=14&t=h



    Bring a snow-cat in winter....





    On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

      I have a bunch I took of a Long Lines concrete tower in Springfield, OH 
that was being torn down on my FB somewhere.

      Then there's long-lines.net




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      Mike Hammett
      Intelligent Computing Solutions
      http://www.ics-il.com



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      From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:56:50 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines


      I didn't get enough pics on this site:  
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cfk3jvi6u5jaq1x/AACv12KJ32ZrUbw5mwSuAVuxa?dl=0   
Lots of awesome stuff here.




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      Mike Hammett
      Intelligent Computing Solutions
      http://www.ics-il.com



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      From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:41:12 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines


      Some of the old AT&T sites are cool. Hardened bunkers with walls many 
feet thick.

      On Jan 26, 2016 7:36 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

        Yeah, you wouldn’t want information like this getting out:

        http://wikimapia.org/10668587/AT-T-Norway-IL-Class-1-Switching-Center

        Not a big secret, since it’s a very distinctive looking tower visible 
from 10-20 miles away due to the high ground it sits on.  It was also one of 
the ground sites for the Air Force 1 secure communications network, I don’t 
know if that’s still operational, I think maybe it is.

        Last I heard DeKalb, IL is still an active fiber POP.  Tower is not 
used, but they won’t least space or sell it.  It’s right in town and not a very 
well kept secret.


        From: George Skorup 
        Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:20 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines

        But AT&T is the devil, so again, just sayin.


        On 1/26/2016 7:16 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

          Ha...as if we are afraid of AT&T....I know most on this list have 
ripped tags off  sofas and mattresses.  So there 

          On Jan 26, 2016 6:09 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:

            AT&T doesn't like it when you list active sites. Just sayin.


            On 1/26/2016 11:33 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

              It has tons in the midwest, I think I unchecked several sections 
before I saved the KML. I was looking only at the Pacific Northwest. Open the 
drop-down arrow that is the main category and re-check the other 4 or 5 
categories.


              On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Keefe John 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Nothing in the midwest either. 



                On 1/26/2016 9:51 AM, Jerry Head wrote:

                  Same here for Alabama.

                  On 1/26/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

                    It doesn't have most of the Kentucky ones.  Interesting...I 
can name a bunch more...

                    Regards,
                    Chuck

                    On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                      Looks like the list may be removing attachments...  
Here's the file:

                      http://tengigabit.ca/~eric/ATT_longlines_USA.kmz


                      On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gerard Dupont III 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                        Did the list scrub the attachment? Link maybe? 

                        Thanks,
                        Gerard

                        On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                          I recently came across this KML file online. It's 
KML/KMZ format for Google Earth.


                          I thought I knew where all the notable towers in WA 
state were, but turns out I was missing a few on my previously self-made AT&T 
Long Lines map. Kudos to whoever put this together.






















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