Hum...4 to 8?   Wouldn't that cause harmonic issues?
On Jan 28, 2016 12:03 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:

> They regularly did 6 and 11 common carrier bands. I don't remember what
> 4GHz was paired with, possibly 8GHz.
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> On 1/28/2016 8:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
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> They made some crazy circular feeds for those horns.  You could put a very
> wide range of frequencies through them and with the correct feed, you can
> have many radios and many different bands on all at the same time.
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> *From:* Erich Kaiser <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2016 6:26 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines
>
> More info on the Horns
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> http://www.telephonecollectors.info/index.php/wiring-diagrams/doc_view/8708-402-421-100-i3
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> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> [email protected]
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Erich Kaiser <[email protected]
> > wrote:
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>> We deployed 6ghz microwave utilizing the horn antennas, they require
>> maintenance but, work really well...That was the network I sold to JAB/T6.
>> They have no idea how that stuff works or any care to learn...
>>
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>> https://www.google.com/search?q=KS-15676+microwave&rlz=1C2GGGE___US556US556&biw=1920&bih=911&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJp9vxq8vKAhUmvIMKHSrKBMIQ_AUICSgE&dpr=1#imgrc=8xtXypST-6HK4M%3A
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>> I still have waveguide parts(Keeping) and circular waveguide(Which is
>> going to the scrap yard)
>>
>> Awesome stuff... Still CatA for 6ghz.
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> [email protected]
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
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>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> there is a "Long Lines" coffee table book.
>>> For all of you that would like to geek out on some antenna porn ;-)
>>>
>>> http://spencerjharding.com/project/the-long-lines/
>>>
>>> http://spencerjharding.com/books/the-long-lines/
>>>
>>> -sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are some amazing Long Lines sites in WA and ID that serve almost
>>>> no useful purpose, now that all long distance traffic moves via fiber...
>>>> The ones closer to major metro areas have more tenants and more value to
>>>> their new owners.
>>>>
>>>> The Long Lines sites that were built solely as a means to get a PTP
>>>> relay over a major mountain range are amazing. Built with massive diesel
>>>> tanks and ventilation intakes 18' off the ground due to snow pack. These
>>>> ones have the original horn antennas and not much else, maybe some VHF/UHF
>>>> omni radio repeaters for forestry/national parks.
>>>>
>>>> Bethel Ridge WA, about 1820 meters elevation
>>>> https://www.google.com/maps?ll=46.71724,-121.10068&z=14&t=h
>>>>
>>>> Goldendale WA
>>>> https://www.google.com/maps?ll=45.99800,-120.69536&z=14&t=h
>>>>
>>>> Leadore ID, one of the highest I can find, it's at 2750m elevation
>>>> https://www.google.com/maps?ll=45.99800,-120.69536&z=14&t=h
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bring a snow-cat in winter....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a bunch I took of a Long Lines concrete tower in Springfield,
>>>>> OH that was being torn down on my FB somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then there's long-lines.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:56:50 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't get enough pics on this site:
>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cfk3jvi6u5jaq1x/AACv12KJ32ZrUbw5mwSuAVuxa?dl=0
>>>>> Lots of awesome stuff here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:41:12 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of the old AT&T sites are cool. Hardened bunkers with walls many
>>>>> feet thick.
>>>>> On Jan 26, 2016 7:36 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, you wouldn’t want information like this getting out:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wikimapia.org/10668587/AT-T-Norway-IL-Class-1-Switching-Center
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a big secret, since it’s a very distinctive looking tower visible
>>>>>> from 10-20 miles away due to the high ground it sits on.  It was also one
>>>>>> of the ground sites for the Air Force 1 secure communications network, I
>>>>>> don’t know if that’s still operational, I think maybe it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last I heard DeKalb, IL is still an active fiber POP.  Tower is not
>>>>>> used, but they won’t least space or sell it.  It’s right in town and not 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> very well kept secret.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* George Skorup <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:20 PM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But AT&T is the devil, so again, just sayin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 7:16 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ha...as if we are afraid of AT&T....I know most on this list have
>>>>>> ripped tags off  sofas and mattresses.  So there
>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2016 6:09 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AT&T doesn't like it when you list active sites. Just sayin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 11:33 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has tons in the midwest, I think I unchecked several sections
>>>>>>> before I saved the KML. I was looking only at the Pacific Northwest. 
>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>> the drop-down arrow that is the main category and re-check the other 4 
>>>>>>> or 5
>>>>>>> categories.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Keefe John <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing in the midwest either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 9:51 AM, Jerry Head wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same here for Alabama.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/26/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't have most of the Kentucky ones.  Interesting...I can
>>>>>>>> name a bunch more...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Eric Kuhnke <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looks like the list may be removing attachments...  Here's the
>>>>>>>>> file:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://tengigabit.ca/~eric/ATT_longlines_USA.kmz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gerard Dupont III <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did the list scrub the attachment? Link maybe?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Gerard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Eric Kuhnke <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I recently came across this KML file online. It's KML/KMZ format
>>>>>>>>>>> for Google Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I knew where all the notable towers in WA state were,
>>>>>>>>>>> but turns out I was missing a few on my previously self-made AT&T 
>>>>>>>>>>> Long
>>>>>>>>>>> Lines map. Kudos to whoever put this together.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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