Blessing and curse. Typically where the customers are actually at, there are 
trees. One tree stops the signal just as good as 10,000 trees. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

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From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:47:11 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines 

 

no trees on mike's dropbox acct pix... 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: George Skorup 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:46 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines 

If war breaks out, I'm heading to one of several we lease space on. I'm sure 
the owner won't mind. 


On 1/27/2016 12:31 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: 

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There are some amazing Long Lines sites in WA and ID that serve almost no 
useful purpose, now that all long distance traffic moves via fiber... The ones 
closer to major metro areas have more tenants and more value to their new 
owners. 

The Long Lines sites that were built solely as a means to get a PTP relay over 
a major mountain range are amazing. Built with massive diesel tanks and 
ventilation intakes 18' off the ground due to snow pack. These ones have the 
original horn antennas and not much else, maybe some VHF/UHF omni radio 
repeaters for forestry/national parks. 

Bethel Ridge WA, about 1820 meters elevation 
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=46.71724,-121.10068&z=14&t=h 

Goldendale WA 
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=45.99800,-120.69536&z=14&t=h 

Leadore ID, one of the highest I can find, it's at 2750m elevation 
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=45.99800,-120.69536&z=14&t=h 


Bring a snow-cat in winter.... 









On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 

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I have a bunch I took of a Long Lines concrete tower in Springfield, OH that 
was being torn down on my FB somewhere. 

Then there's long-lines.net 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:56:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines 


I didn't get enough pics on this site: 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cfk3jvi6u5jaq1x/AACv12KJ32ZrUbw5mwSuAVuxa?dl=0 Lots 
of awesome stuff here. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Josh Reynolds" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:41:12 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines 


Some of the old AT&T sites are cool. Hardened bunkers with walls many feet 
thick. 
On Jan 26, 2016 7:36 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Yeah, you wouldn’t want information like this getting out: 

http://wikimapia.org/10668587/AT-T-Norway-IL-Class-1-Switching-Center 

Not a big secret, since it’s a very distinctive looking tower visible from 
10-20 miles away due to the high ground it sits on. It was also one of the 
ground sites for the Air Force 1 secure communications network, I don’t know if 
that’s still operational, I think maybe it is. 

Last I heard DeKalb, IL is still an active fiber POP. Tower is not used, but 
they won’t least space or sell it. It’s right in town and not a very well kept 
secret. 





From: George Skorup 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:20 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AT&T Long Lines 

But AT&T is the devil, so again, just sayin. 


On 1/26/2016 7:16 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: 

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Ha...as if we are afraid of AT&T....I know most on this list have ripped tags 
off sofas and mattresses. So there 
On Jan 26, 2016 6:09 PM, "George Skorup" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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AT&T doesn't like it when you list active sites. Just sayin. 


On 1/26/2016 11:33 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: 

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It has tons in the midwest, I think I unchecked several sections before I saved 
the KML. I was looking only at the Pacific Northwest. Open the drop-down arrow 
that is the main category and re-check the other 4 or 5 categories. 



On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Keefe John < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Nothing in the midwest either. 




On 1/26/2016 9:51 AM, Jerry Head wrote: 

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Same here for Alabama. 

On 1/26/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: 

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It doesn't have most of the Kentucky ones. Interesting...I can name a bunch 
more... 



Regards, 
Chuck 

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Eric Kuhnke < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Looks like the list may be removing attachments... Here's the file: 

http://tengigabit.ca/~eric/ATT_longlines_USA.kmz 



On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gerard Dupont III < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

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Did the list scrub the attachment? Link maybe? 

Thanks, 
Gerard 




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I recently came across this KML file online. It's KML/KMZ format for Google 
Earth. 

I thought I knew where all the notable towers in WA state were, but turns out I 
was missing a few on my previously self-made AT&T Long Lines map. Kudos to 
whoever put this together. 






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