I assume you power your NOC by burning cow farts, so totally green?

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 1:13 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/click-clean/




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From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 12:31:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?


I can see the headline:

“Internet main cause of global warming”


From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 11:27 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?

Yes. It jacked up my power and HVAC budget badly. On the "bright side", our NOC 
will be 240v only now :P

On Feb 6, 2016 11:07 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:

  The MX platform is, but also very power hungry.




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  From: "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected], [email protected]
  Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:06:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?


  Juniper mx480 is a great capable platform 


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  On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:02 AM -0800, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:


    *nods* but not significantly cheaper than Juniper hardware for real routing.




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    From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:59:34 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?


    It's a virtualized MX series. To those already doing SDN with Juniper APIs 
that offers some very nice features without having to reinvent the sdn control 
interface.

    On Feb 6, 2016 10:50 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:

      vMX was really exciting until it wasn't that much different in price from 
hardware with the same capabilities from Juniper. It's like $20k for a license 
to do 10G and "advanced" features.




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      Intelligent Computing Solutions

      Midwest Internet Exchange

      The Brothers WISP






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      From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:14:48 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?


      I may be looking at some juniper vMX and Brocade vrouter for other 
projects in the near future for low/intermediate routing (10+ Gbps). Both use 
Intel DPDK, similar CLI.

      Most of us aren't buying MX960s.  ;-)




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      Intelligent Computing Solutions

      Midwest Internet Exchange

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      From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 9:43:16 AM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?


      I agree, but that can get very expensive.

      On Feb 6, 2016 9:42 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:

        The best form of redundancy is two separate units with no dependency on 
each other.




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        Intelligent Computing Solutions

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        From: "TJ Trout" <[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 5:38:40 PM
        Subject: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy?


        What are some options for 10G capable routers that won't break the bank 
that have 3+ 10G ports? Was planning two ccr1072 with ibgp but maybe I should 
be considering something else ?

        Also what are some models of 10G switches (sfp+) that have 4+ ports?






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