I don't think any American continental-scale ASes out there with POPs on both coasts, central locations (Chicago, KC, etc) are running on Vyatta.
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > Ehhhh.... > > I am aware of quite a few networks that are large (continental, > transcontinental) that run just fine without MPLS. I also just read about a > very interesting large scale (500,000 node) SPB + SDN deployment that was > very cool. > > "The Data center" , often with hundreds of thousands of nodes also seems > "to work okay" without MPLS (although vxlan is an atrocity). > On Feb 6, 2016 6:10 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't understand why anybody would buy a 'router' (whether vyatta/x86 >> based or not) that has FIB/TCAM space for full routes, but isn't capable of >> MPLS... >> >> MPLS in its various forms is invaluable for traffic engineering. Even >> basic stuff like creating a cross connect from a VLAN containing a few open >> wifi APs at site A, for example a coffee shop in a big MDU, to your >> firewall/captive portal (pfsense, whatever) in a datacenter at site B. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Brocades offering is basically vyatta with some upgrades / tweaks and a >>> massive performance increase with DPDK. Add in a few Chelsio T5 10Gbps or >>> 40Gbps ports and it might be a hell of a platform, as long as you don't >>> need mpls. Juniper vMX does has mpls/vpls support. >>> On Feb 6, 2016 10:24 AM, "Josh Baird" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I looked at vMX months ago. It was far from 'production-ready' in my >>>> opinion, although I think it's finally starting to mature a little bit. >>>> Lack of hypervisor options (no ESX at the time), crappy documentation, and >>>> a general lack of knowledge on the product it's self from Juniper made me >>>> quickly change my mind. The seems to be the general consensus with the >>>> community as well. Cisco's CSR seems to be a much more mature product at >>>> this point. I don't know anything about Brocade's offering. >>>> >>>> For what it's worth, we went with MX104 instead. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I may be looking at some juniper vMX and Brocade vrouter for other >>>>> projects in the near future for low/intermediate routing (10+ Gbps). Both >>>>> use Intel DPDK, similar CLI. >>>>> Most of us aren't buying MX960s. ;-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 6, 2016 9:43:16 AM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy? >>>>> >>>>> I agree, but that can get very expensive. >>>>> On Feb 6, 2016 9:42 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The best form of redundancy is two separate units with no dependency >>>>>> on each other. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *"TJ Trout" <[email protected]> >>>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, February 5, 2016 5:38:40 PM >>>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 10G router(s) with redundancy? >>>>>> >>>>>> What are some options for 10G capable routers that won't break the >>>>>> bank that have 3+ 10G ports? Was planning two ccr1072 with ibgp but >>>>>> maybe I >>>>>> should be considering something else ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Also what are some models of 10G switches (sfp+) that have 4+ ports? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>
