The FCC  will not be renewing the NN license for 3650-3700.   It will become 
CBSD and follow those rules.

Mark


Please note the mailing and shipping address change below:

Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
22690 Pemberville Rd
Luckey, OH 43443
419-837-5015 x1021
[email protected]

> On Feb 11, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> People need to remember those licenses are only for 10 years, mine runs out 
> 10/25/2018.  Not sure if it’s an automatic pay the fee and get another 10 
> years or what.  Hopefully by 2018 the FCC has the new system set up and has 
> done PAL auctions, but you never know.  They are good at criticizing ISPs for 
> moving too slow, but it’s kind of a “do as I say, not as I do” thing.
>  
>  
> From: Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:30 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence
>  
> I didn't, but I do have one. I forget when exactly I got mine.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> 
> 
>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:25:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence
> 
> So, did you get transfer his NN license as part of the purchase?
>  
>  
> From: Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:19 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence
>  
> There was Redline gear at those sites, but none of it was working. I didn't 
> bother trying to figure out why.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> 
> 
>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:01:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence
> 
> Back when 3.65 was new, a lot of WISPs applied for a license thinking it was 
> a homesteading thing and they would get some sort of exclusivity by staking 
> their claim first.  So I expect there are WISPs with licenses who never 
> deployed anything.  For example, I think Michael Anderson of Part15.org 
> <http://part15.org/> and PDQLink registered a bunch of sites with Redline 
> equipment, I am guessing few if any of those were ever deployed.  More like 
> virtual flags planted on the moon.
>  
> Also, I would speculate that WISPs sold to aggregators like JAB may not have 
> transferred their 3.65 band licenses as part of the sale, so individuals 
> might be sitting on some licenses but barred from using them by a no-compete 
> clause.  I don’t know this for a fact, just guessing.
>  
>  
> From: Rick Harnish <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:08 AM
> To: mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence
>  
> Yes, you can buy any license previously awarded.
>  
> I don’t know of any stipulations.  You do need to file for a license 
> ownership transfer with the FCC.  That may take 60 to 90 days.
>  
> The FCC did eliminate many of its field employees last fall.  Budgets are 
> tight the way I understand it.  That being said, it seems they are fining 
> operators quite handily for breaking rules these days.
>  
> Respectfully,
>  
> Rick Harnish
> Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
> 260-307-4000 cell
> Skype: rick.harnish.​
> Twitter: @rharnish
>  
>  
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On 
> Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:41 AM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence
>  
> since its a nationwide license, you can buy and sell anywhere in fcc 
> territory cant you?
>  
> Are there any stipulations on the transfer?
>  
> would be awesome to see an FCC crackdown since there arent going to be any 
> new licenses, nobody can backdoor it. The FCC could contract some unemployed 
> drivers to do drive testing finding all the unregistered transmitters and 
> fine the hell out of the operators, into bankruptcy preferably. lien lien 
> lien 
>  
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Rick Harnish <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> TJ,
>  
> I have a couple existing license holders willing to sell their licenses.  
> Contact me off list or give me a call if you’re interested. 
>  
> Respectfully,
>  
> Rick Harnish
> Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
> 260-307-4000 <tel:260-307-4000> cell
> Skype: rick.harnish.​
> Twitter: @rharnish
>  
>  
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On 
> Behalf Of TJ Trout
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:29 AM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence
>  
> What Is the process to get a 365 license and start working an area with 
> current licensees already in the same footprint ? Just register for the 
> license, register the ap and try not to be on the same channel as someone 
> else? Essentially the same as ISM/UNIII but you pay a fee and put your name 
> in a data base ?
> 
> 
>  
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

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