If I remember correctly, we can only operate under the old rules until some time in 2020 anyway, so at best renewing would only extend it about a year and a half, in your case. I would hope the new system will be running by 2018, but who knows... if it isn't there could end up being a year and a half or so where you're just out of luck.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > People need to remember those licenses are only for 10 years, mine runs > out 10/25/2018. Not sure if it’s an automatic pay the fee and get another > 10 years or what. Hopefully by 2018 the FCC has the new system set up and > has done PAL auctions, but you never know. They are good at criticizing > ISPs for moving too slow, but it’s kind of a “do as I say, not as I do” > thing. > > > *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:30 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence > > I didn't, but I do have one. I forget when exactly I got mine. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:25:07 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence > > So, did you get transfer his NN license as part of the purchase? > > > *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:19 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence > > There was Redline gear at those sites, but none of it was working. I > didn't bother trying to figure out why. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:01:34 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence > > Back when 3.65 was new, a lot of WISPs applied for a license thinking it > was a homesteading thing and they would get some sort of exclusivity by > staking their claim first. So I expect there are WISPs with licenses who > never deployed anything. For example, I think Michael Anderson of > Part15.org and PDQLink registered a bunch of sites with Redline equipment, > I am guessing few if any of those were ever deployed. More like virtual > flags planted on the moon. > > Also, I would speculate that WISPs sold to aggregators like JAB may not > have transferred their 3.65 band licenses as part of the sale, so > individuals might be sitting on some licenses but barred from using them by > a no-compete clause. I don’t know this for a fact, just guessing. > > > *From:* Rick Harnish <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:08 AM > *To:* mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence > > > Yes, you can buy any license previously awarded. > > > > I don’t know of any stipulations. You do need to file for a license > ownership transfer with the FCC. That may take 60 to 90 days. > > > > The FCC did eliminate many of its field employees last fall. Budgets are > tight the way I understand it. That being said, it seems they are fining > operators quite handily for breaking rules these days. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > *Rick Harnish* > > Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst > > 260-307-4000 cell > > Skype: rick.harnish. > > Twitter: @rharnish > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:41 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence > > > > since its a nationwide license, you can buy and sell anywhere in fcc > territory cant you? > > > > Are there any stipulations on the transfer? > > > > would be awesome to see an FCC crackdown since there arent going to be any > new licenses, nobody can backdoor it. The FCC could contract some > unemployed drivers to do drive testing finding all the unregistered > transmitters and fine the hell out of the operators, into bankruptcy > preferably. lien lien lien > > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Rick Harnish <[email protected]> > wrote: > > TJ, > > > > I have a couple existing license holders willing to sell their licenses. > Contact me off list or give me a call if you’re interested. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > *Rick Harnish* > > Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst > > 260-307-4000 cell > > Skype: rick.harnish. > > Twitter: @rharnish > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:29 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [AFMUG] 3.65 licensing due diligence > > > > What Is the process to get a 365 license and start working an area with > current licensees already in the same footprint ? Just register for the > license, register the ap and try not to be on the same channel as someone > else? Essentially the same as ISM/UNIII but you pay a fee and put your name > in a data base ? > > > > > > -- > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > >
