I'm not saying it is bad for the channel size, just that the $/mbps is high.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> 40Mbps on  a 10MHz channel going through trees is bad?
> On Feb 12, 2016 1:23 PM, "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Given the price it takes to get into a system like this, 40-42 mbps seems
>> a little light...
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Andreas Wiatowski <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Since we have a 2.3Ghz license and use the 3000 product…Yes it
>>> delivers!  The 3.65Ghz works well but at lower power…it is very hard to
>>> compare the two. The challenge we had initially was the delay in the EPC
>>> core… it’s rock solid now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are running a 10Mhz channel on our licenced gear..we are hitting our
>>> predicted 40-42Mbps on the downlink in terms of capacity..so it does
>>> deliver. With our previous Wimax and LTE platform, I was luck to get
>>> 20-30Mbps out of a sector. For the record,  we actually went into full
>>> commercial availability as of Jan 15…. And add about 3-6 new subs a day to
>>> the Telrad LTE… I’ll let you know how things shake out once it gets loaded
>>> up..we have approximately 450 Subs right now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> ______________________________
>>>
>>> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
>>>
>>> Silo Wireless Inc.
>>>
>>> Email  [email protected]
>>>
>>> 19 Sage Court
>>>
>>> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
>>>
>>> Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free
>>> +1.866.727.4138
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
>>> *Sent:* February 12, 2016 11:57 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Didn’t make the connection between that LTE and the stuff Patrick was
>>> pushing.  So Andreas, does do all that super fantastic NLOS stuff Patrick
>>> was promising?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 9:52 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andreas from Silo Wireless posted yesterday about their experience with
>>> it.  I assume that was the Telrad LTE product, evolved from Alvarion WiMAX.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 10:35 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Remember the days of posting about the works through solid rock product
>>> he was pitching.  Which product was that and did the testing ever prove out?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 9:22 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* af <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually it shows an end date for telrad, followed by a new job entry
>>> which doesn't give much info.
>>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2016 9:18 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Patrick’s Linkedin profile doesn’t seem to mention Telrad, so maybe
>>> something did change?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 10:09 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What was the product he was so hot on a while back?  Did it ever pan out?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino Villarini <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 8:46 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i recently sent patrick an email and it bounced... hmmm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Lewis you owe me some dry cleaning... I spit out my coffee.. "Israeli
>>> hit squad "....MOSSAD
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2016 6:22 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That is quite the thorough explanation and I sincerely appreciate it.
>>> The effort to describe that in detail was great thanks. I have mixed
>>> feelings about an issue that requires an Israeli hit squad to come fix it
>>> but I assume that was on 3.65 and not true licensed. I am not sure if I
>>> would spend the money if I couldn't do it on
>>> licensed.
>>>
>>> But all together a solid recommendation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 4:12 PM Andreas Wiatowski <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ll pipe in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We were/are an early adopter of LTE.  I can tell you that buying into
>>> the Telrad system has been a very good move for us.  As of today, almost
>>> 450 Subscribers and 30 sectors deployed in 2.3Ghz and 3.65Ghz.  We have a
>>> total build commitment consisting of 70 sectors and 2 EPC cores on our
>>> network.  From there…who knows.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have been deploying 4 sectors with Back to Back frequency reuse using
>>> 2 eNodeB’s in split mode.  Once we fill it up, we will deploy additional
>>> AP’s and continue to fill…..then once MU-Mimo is running we will double our
>>> subscriber possibility.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Now that we have Breezeview running and ACS, we have complete visibility
>>> into our UE’s and infrastructure.  The piece we need to get integrated is
>>> Powercode and the EPC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Was the LTE piece sold too early???…YES… Is it ready for commercial
>>> deployment now?….YES.  Because of early adoption, we certainly appreciate
>>> the features and stability of the platform and EPC at this point. Thanks to
>>> other customers that adopted early, like us, many bugs and issues have been
>>> resolved.
>>>
>>> Another point to remember is that the technology has been heavily
>>> deployed by National Carriers in the WiMAX flavour as Alvarion…the hardware
>>> is hardened and works well in extremely cold temperatures and heat….and
>>> lightning resilient because of field proven/hardened components.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LTE is absolute magic…. Our installers are loving a working, predictable
>>> platform now that we have a strong understanding of capabilities and I love
>>> the fact that new features are a software upgrade away. We are filling our
>>> schedules with customers that have been waiting a long time for our
>>> deployment.  I can tell you we wasted a lot of money with other
>>> platforms/vendors, but I am very happy with our decision to go with Telrad.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, kudos to Telrad.  They have been absolutely terrific on the
>>> customer service front too…we had some very weird issues just before
>>> Christmas, they sent Guy from Israel on boxing day and we spent a week in
>>> the field diagnosing problems and solving them. Most of the problems were
>>> related to outside interference and on tower interference.  This field
>>> diagnosing and knowledge level that Guy has in the product definitely
>>> instilled confidence in the product and sealed my faith in the decision I
>>> made to move forward with them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> ______________________________
>>>
>>> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
>>>
>>> Silo Wireless Inc.
>>>
>>> Email  [email protected]
>>>
>>> 19 Sage Court
>>>
>>> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
>>>
>>> Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free
>>> +1.866.727.4138
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* February 11, 2016 4:17 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you doing LTE or Wimax with Telrad, Sean?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> We deploy mainly LOS with canopy 450 5ghz.  However the telrad equipment
>>> has been amazing at connecting clients that are buried in trees. I'm
>>> extremely satisfied with the performance of the system...when it works.  I
>>> added the qualifier of "when it works" because I feel like we've been a bit
>>> of a beta tester.  It's a very new product on the bleeding edge and it's
>>> getting better all the time but we definetly bled more blood than I would
>>> have liked.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 cents
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016, TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> It seems as if the telrad discussions have gone cold, seriously looking
>>> at it for a new deployment but wanted to get some feedback from current
>>> users, Gino? Etc
>>>
>>> They have priced me out at about 45k for 4 radios, 4 sectors and the
>>> basic EPC. $285 for the CPE. This is a fortune compared to anything else,
>>> but if you can truly reach many more customers and load the aps higher it
>>> may pincel out for me...
>>>
>>> So what's the word ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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