I won’t claim to be an expert by any means on STL links.  I’ve engineered 
backhaul links for broadcast guys though so I know a bit about the requirements.



IMHO it’s a bad idea to put STL traffic on the internet.  Packet loss, jitter, 
latency are all very important metrics.  Capacity is low… maybe 2Mbps tops for 
HD audio (I guess it could be more depending on how many stations are 
transmitting from that antenna).  Give them a dedicated link.



Telos/Axia and Whetstone are the two encoder manufacturers I’ve run across.



Jeff Holdenrid at DoubleRadius would be a great contact if you’re looking for 
ways to make the STL work.



Thank you,



Daniel White

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From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Colocating with fm radio station



If someone has any info on the STL links. Send me a message off list.

I wanna know everything possible about it

On Feb 18, 2016 12:37 PM, "Joseph Marsh" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Josh

He has 6000 watts on the main transmitter

On Feb 18, 2016 12:22 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

You could be OK.  Definitely not a "will be" especially with unknown power.



Also keep in mind you're supposed to lower the power when climbing on the tower.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Joseph Marsh <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

So if I do shielded cat 5 I should be okay correct?

On Feb 18, 2016 11:55 AM, "George Skorup" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

We're on a very similar site. We're running 100Mb and GigE links with no 
issues. However, external surge suppressors on the tower near the radios did 
give us errors, so we had to take them out... and pray.

On 2/18/2016 11:38 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote:

The transmitter is 6000 watts 350 ft tall. We are going up at 125ft

On Feb 18, 2016 11:29 AM, "Joseph Marsh" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

You bet I'll be on the other side of tower with cat 5. It's a privately. Owned 
tower so I got leeway to do what I need

On Feb 18, 2016 11:25 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Metallic liquidtight flexible conduit with shielded cat5 inside.



Stay away from the driven elements as far as you can.

Some use ferrite cores on the cable too.  Can’t hurt.



From: Joseph Marsh <mailto:[email protected]>

Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:09 AM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Colocating with fm radio station



He told us but can't  remember off hand

I got one hell of a deal just had to give  him internet for a stl box so he can 
do away with a 900 mhz. Ptp system

On Feb 18, 2016 11:00 AM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Far as possible.  How much power is the FM station?  Definitely use shielded 
cable.





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Joseph Marsh <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

How far do I need to be from the fm transmitter to be safe with cambium and 
ubnt. Equipment









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