The public internet yes, but if you have pretty good control over the route 
then it should not be a problem.  Many times the traffic is like a two hop 
distance.  If your upstream provider peers with the station provider I can’t 
see a big problem.  Or better yet, your upstream provider serves the station 
studio or whatever the other end is...  

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 1:47 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Colocating with fm radio station

I won’t claim to be an expert by any means on STL links.  I’ve engineered 
backhaul links for broadcast guys though so I know a bit about the requirements.

 

IMHO it’s a bad idea to put STL traffic on the internet.  Packet loss, jitter, 
latency are all very important metrics.  Capacity is low… maybe 2Mbps tops for 
HD audio (I guess it could be more depending on how many stations are 
transmitting from that antenna).  Give them a dedicated link.

 

Telos/Axia and Whetstone are the two encoder manufacturers I’ve run across.

 

Jeff Holdenrid at DoubleRadius would be a great contact if you’re looking for 
ways to make the STL work.

 

Thank you,

 

Daniel White

[email protected]

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn: Twitter

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Colocating with fm radio station

 

If someone has any info on the STL links. Send me a message off list. 

I wanna know everything possible about it

On Feb 18, 2016 12:37 PM, "Joseph Marsh" <[email protected]> wrote:

  Josh 

  He has 6000 watts on the main transmitter 

  On Feb 18, 2016 12:22 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> wrote:

    You could be OK.  Definitely not a "will be" especially with unknown power.

     

    Also keep in mind you're supposed to lower the power when climbing on the 
tower.




     

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

     

    On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Joseph Marsh <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      So if I do shielded cat 5 I should be okay correct?

      On Feb 18, 2016 11:55 AM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:

        We're on a very similar site. We're running 100Mb and GigE links with 
no issues. However, external surge suppressors on the tower near the radios did 
give us errors, so we had to take them out... and pray.

        On 2/18/2016 11:38 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote:

          The transmitter is 6000 watts 350 ft tall. We are going up at 125ft 

          On Feb 18, 2016 11:29 AM, "Joseph Marsh" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            You bet I'll be on the other side of tower with cat 5. It's a 
privately. Owned tower so I got leeway to do what I need 

            On Feb 18, 2016 11:25 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

              Metallic liquidtight flexible conduit with shielded cat5 inside.  

               

              Stay away from the driven elements as far as you can.  

              Some use ferrite cores on the cable too.  Can’t hurt.  

               

              From: Joseph Marsh 

              Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:09 AM

              To: [email protected] 

              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Colocating with fm radio station

               

              He told us but can't  remember off hand 

              I got one hell of a deal just had to give  him internet for a stl 
box so he can do away with a 900 mhz. Ptp system

              On Feb 18, 2016 11:00 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Far as possible.  How much power is the FM station?  Definitely 
use shielded cable.

                 

                 

                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373

                 

                On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Joseph Marsh 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  How far do I need to be from the fm transmitter to be safe 
with cambium and ubnt. Equipment

                 

         

     


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