What do they do when the STL fails? Do they have a way to get some generic
stuff playing while it's fixed?

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> The public internet yes, but if you have pretty good control over the
> route then it should not be a problem.  Many times the traffic is like a
> two hop distance.  If your upstream provider peers with the station
> provider I can’t see a big problem.  Or better yet, your upstream provider
> serves the station studio or whatever the other end is...
>
> *From:* Daniel White <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 1:47 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Colocating with fm radio station
>
>
> I won’t claim to be an expert by any means on STL links.  I’ve engineered
> backhaul links for broadcast guys though so I know a bit about the
> requirements.
>
>
>
> IMHO it’s a bad idea to put STL traffic on the internet.  Packet loss,
> jitter, latency are all very important metrics.  Capacity is low… maybe
> 2Mbps tops for HD audio (I guess it could be more depending on how many
> stations are transmitting from that antenna).  Give them a dedicated link.
>
>
>
> Telos/Axia and Whetstone are the two encoder manufacturers I’ve run across.
>
>
>
> Jeff Holdenrid at DoubleRadius would be a great contact if you’re looking
> for ways to make the STL work.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> [email protected]
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> Skype: danieldwhite
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Marsh
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:52 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Colocating with fm radio station
>
>
>
> If someone has any info on the STL links. Send me a message off list.
>
> I wanna know everything possible about it
>
> On Feb 18, 2016 12:37 PM, "Joseph Marsh" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Josh
>
> He has 6000 watts on the main transmitter
>
> On Feb 18, 2016 12:22 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> You could be OK.  Definitely not a "will be" especially with unknown power.
>
>
>
> Also keep in mind you're supposed to lower the power when climbing on the
> tower.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Joseph Marsh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> So if I do shielded cat 5 I should be okay correct?
>
> On Feb 18, 2016 11:55 AM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We're on a very similar site. We're running 100Mb and GigE links with no
> issues. However, external surge suppressors on the tower near the radios
> did give us errors, so we had to take them out... and pray.
>
> On 2/18/2016 11:38 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote:
>
> The transmitter is 6000 watts 350 ft tall. We are going up at 125ft
>
> On Feb 18, 2016 11:29 AM, "Joseph Marsh" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> You bet I'll be on the other side of tower with cat 5. It's a privately.
> Owned tower so I got leeway to do what I need
>
> On Feb 18, 2016 11:25 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Metallic liquidtight flexible conduit with shielded cat5 inside.
>
>
>
> Stay away from the driven elements as far as you can.
>
> Some use ferrite cores on the cable too.  Can’t hurt.
>
>
>
> *From:* Joseph Marsh <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:09 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Colocating with fm radio station
>
>
>
> He told us but can't  remember off hand
>
> I got one hell of a deal just had to give  him internet for a stl box so
> he can do away with a 900 mhz. Ptp system
>
> On Feb 18, 2016 11:00 AM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Far as possible.  How much power is the FM station?  Definitely use
> shielded cable.
>
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Joseph Marsh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> How far do I need to be from the fm transmitter to be safe with cambium
> and ubnt. Equipment
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