That looks like a much easier mask to meet.   Still provides the same
protection to TDWR and Part 101 users, yet isn't extremely agressive at the
band edges.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here's the compromise
>
> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=60001333104
>
> Not sure where it stands today, maybe Steve Coran could give us an update.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Pushed it back as in not taking effect summer 2016???
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> That's correct, as I understood it.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OOBE rules have/are being modified so as to meet the intended DoD
>>>> requirements but not hamstring the manufacturers with expensive filters
>>>> etc.  I believe they pushed back some or all of the implementation for a
>>>> year.  there was an explanation at last years wispapalooza on the technical
>>>> details and i know steve coran posted some filings etc. to the list a while
>>>> back.  I think the FCC chose the UBNT method over the WISPA/JAB method.
>>>>
>>>> don't quote me on this tho...i might have just been drunk in vegas and
>>>> dreamed all this up lol.
>>>>
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Matt <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Will the "next generation PMP 450 SM" have the same throughput and
>>>>> range as the current standard PMP450 SM with a reflector dish in 5.8
>>>>> ghz band?  Just concerned the new OOBE rules might reduce usefulness
>>>>> of 5 ghz band for longer range PtmP and PTP?  I am guessing they will
>>>>> have some added filtering to meet the OOBE rules and just hoping this
>>>>> does not reduce range terribly?  24 volt or 48 volt POE?  It would be
>>>>> nice if they worked on either voltage to make swap outs easier.  Will
>>>>> also slightly reduce cost of swapping power supplies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Matt Mangriotis
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > YES!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We are undertaking this project and working toward a next generation
>>>>> PMP 450
>>>>> > SM that will cover the entire 5 GHz band (from 4.9-5.9 GHz), and be
>>>>> less
>>>>> > expensive than the 450i SM.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > At this point, I can’t comment on much surrounding the launch, as
>>>>> we’ve only
>>>>> > recently embarked down this path.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Matt
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 8:59 PM
>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i 5.1 and 5.2 non overlapping channels?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thank you Matt. I appreciate the info.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Are there any plans on creating 1 450 SM that can handle all 4
>>>>> frequencies?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That would be super....
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 3:30 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > No, the regular 450 is hardware limited to 5470-5900.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 2/20/2016 3:55 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Will the 450 CPE work in 5.2?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jeff Broadwick
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 312-205-2519 Office
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 574-220-7826 Cell
>>>>> >
>>>>> > [email protected]
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Feb 20, 2016, at 2:45 PM, Tushar Patel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Matt,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To take advantage don't we need cheaper CPE?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tushar
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Feb 20, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Matt Mangriotis
>>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Didn’t see anyone answer you on this Sam.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 5.1 GHz (UNII-1) is 100 MHz (5150-5250 MHz), and is not DFS
>>>>> controlled, and
>>>>> > follows similar rules to 5.8 GHz.  This band is available in R14.1.1.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 5.2 GHz (UNII-2) is also 100 MHz (5250-5350 MHz), but is a bit less
>>>>> useful
>>>>> > in that the max EIRP allowed is 30 dBm and it’s subject to DFS radar
>>>>> > detection mechanisms.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Additional info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-NII
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Taking advantage of these bands, however, can prove hugely useful and
>>>>> > several of our customers are getting equipment deployed and working
>>>>> soon.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > (Note: 5.2 and 5.4 will be supported in the R14.1.2 beta release
>>>>> that will
>>>>> > be out very soon).
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Matt
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
>>>>> > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:54 PM
>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>> > Subject: [AFMUG] 450i 5.1 and 5.2 non overlapping channels?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is there any documentation or list knowledge on how big each
>>>>> frequency is?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Just wondering if it is worth it to go to the 450i and the
>>>>> ridiculously
>>>>> > expensive SM's.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We are running out of spectrum in 5.4 and 5.8 though.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Sam Lambie
>>>>> > Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>>> > 575-758-7598 Office
>>>>> > www.Taosnet.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Sam Lambie
>>>>> > Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>>> > 575-758-7598 Office
>>>>> > www.Taosnet.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>
>>


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