We actually have one of those in town here too... I think it's 110 octane,
unfortunately, I've never had a use for it :P

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Robert Andrews <[email protected]>
wrote:

> We have a station here in Reno that sells 110 and 114 Octane racing fuel
> at the pump...   Vrooooommmmmmmmmmmm....  And $$$$$$$$$$
>
> On 04/04/2016 11:14 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
>> We have quite a few stations up here that sell ethanol free gas...
>> mostly 91 octane, but a few have 87 too... of course you pay quite a bit
>> extra for it.
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2016 1:10 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Not in the midwest. All blends are E10.
>>
>>     On 4/4/2016 12:55 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>>>     Yeah anywhere where boating or motor sports are popular you might
>>>     find ethanol free.
>>>     I also seem to think the higher octane fuels won't have ethanol,
>>>     but I can't remember why I think that.
>>>
>>>     On 4/4/2016 1:51 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Yup. If you have a marina near you, they will most likely have
>>>>     ethanol-free gas. You'll pay a little bit more for it though. We
>>>>     keep a couple cheap gas inverter generators around for spares,
>>>>     but we primarily use the Yamaha w/ propane.
>>>>
>>>>     My truck is apparently so carbon'd up that I cannot run the
>>>>     E10/87 (87 octane my ass) without knocking and the PCM retarding
>>>>     the timing. I'm running some Shell Nitro with extra detergent
>>>>     added to try to clean it up. If I could find some of the old GM
>>>>     Top Engine Cleaner, I'd do that, but the EPA banned it. So they
>>>>     give us shit gas and no means to clean it. There's nowhere near
>>>>     enough detergent in any of the regular gasolines. I'm not pulling
>>>>     the heads to clean the cylinders, F that. I did find out that my
>>>>     truck shuts down at 98MPH too. Lame.
>>>>
>>>>     On 4/4/2016 12:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     The labels say no ethanol!
>>>>>
>>>>>     Josh Luthman
>>>>>     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>>     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>>     1100 Wayne St
>>>>>     Suite 1337
>>>>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Apr 4, 2016 12:57 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         We've started our little Yamaha on a 20# tank at -15F
>>>>>         before. It can be a bitch to get started because of the
>>>>>         protection valves in tanks now. We had one old tank without
>>>>>         the valve and it would fire up on the first pull every time.
>>>>>         Now it takes 5-6 pulls using the choke to get that valve open.
>>>>>
>>>>>         One thing I found out with all of my truck woes and shit
>>>>>         gasoline is that small/carb engines were never designed to
>>>>>         run the ethanol blends. The ethanol is corrosive to
>>>>>         non-stainless fuel systems. This is why all FlexFuel
>>>>>         certified systems are stainless delivery, injector rails, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 4/4/2016 8:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>             Yeah, I have run lots of propane generators.  Here are a
>>>>>             few problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Temperature.  If it is -20F outside, you have to have a
>>>>>             very very large tank to generate enough vapor to keep
>>>>>             the generator running.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Conversely you can use a liquid pickup and a vaporizer
>>>>>             but you need heat energy for the vaporizer to get the
>>>>>             thing started.
>>>>>
>>>>>             And liquid pickups also pick all the dirt and sludge at
>>>>>             the bottom of the tank.  You would not believe the
>>>>>             amount of gunk in those tanks (I cut old ones up for
>>>>>             smokers).
>>>>>
>>>>>             And no matter what kind of fuel you use, the starter
>>>>>             motor battery is a common point of failure as is
>>>>>             charger.  I like to remote the battery into the heated
>>>>>             building if there is a heated building. Generac was
>>>>>             infamous for supplying a charger that failed and you
>>>>>             didn't know until you needed.
>>>>>
>>>>>             I started putting telemetry on all starter motor
>>>>>             batteries on all generators.  That is the most important
>>>>>             bit of data you need to monitor.
>>>>>
>>>>>             -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup
>>>>>             Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 9:43 PM
>>>>>             To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>             Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PSA - check your generators!
>>>>>
>>>>>             Propane
>>>>>
>>>>>             On 4/3/2016 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 I've had a handful of generators that always started
>>>>>                 on the first pull. Until today.  Got another one for
>>>>>                 the site but started tearing apart the old one and I
>>>>>                 think it's a bad carb, something I'll have someone
>>>>>                 else take a look at.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Mine are all sitting inside doing nothing, they're
>>>>>                 portable with two wheels but require two people or a
>>>>>                 ramp to put in the truck.  I don't know if I'd buy
>>>>>                 these size units again but I really do like the 8.5
>>>>>                 gallons and 24 hour run time...
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Josh Luthman
>>>>>                 Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>>                 Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>>                 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>                 Suite 1337
>>>>>                 Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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