We have quite a few stations up here that sell ethanol free gas... mostly 91 octane, but a few have 87 too... of course you pay quite a bit extra for it. On Apr 4, 2016 1:10 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not in the midwest. All blends are E10. > > On 4/4/2016 12:55 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Yeah anywhere where boating or motor sports are popular you might find > ethanol free. > I also seem to think the higher octane fuels won't have ethanol, but I > can't remember why I think that. > > On 4/4/2016 1:51 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > Yup. If you have a marina near you, they will most likely have > ethanol-free gas. You'll pay a little bit more for it though. We keep a > couple cheap gas inverter generators around for spares, but we primarily > use the Yamaha w/ propane. > > My truck is apparently so carbon'd up that I cannot run the E10/87 (87 > octane my ass) without knocking and the PCM retarding the timing. I'm > running some Shell Nitro with extra detergent added to try to clean it up. > If I could find some of the old GM Top Engine Cleaner, I'd do that, but the > EPA banned it. So they give us shit gas and no means to clean it. There's > nowhere near enough detergent in any of the regular gasolines. I'm not > pulling the heads to clean the cylinders, F that. I did find out that my > truck shuts down at 98MPH too. Lame. > > On 4/4/2016 12:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > The labels say no ethanol! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Apr 4, 2016 12:57 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We've started our little Yamaha on a 20# tank at -15F before. It can be a >> bitch to get started because of the protection valves in tanks now. We had >> one old tank without the valve and it would fire up on the first pull every >> time. Now it takes 5-6 pulls using the choke to get that valve open. >> >> One thing I found out with all of my truck woes and shit gasoline is that >> small/carb engines were never designed to run the ethanol blends. The >> ethanol is corrosive to non-stainless fuel systems. This is why all >> FlexFuel certified systems are stainless delivery, injector rails, etc. >> >> On 4/4/2016 8:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I have run lots of propane generators. Here are a few problems. >>> >>> Temperature. If it is -20F outside, you have to have a very very large >>> tank to generate enough vapor to keep the generator running. >>> >>> Conversely you can use a liquid pickup and a vaporizer but you need heat >>> energy for the vaporizer to get the thing started. >>> >>> And liquid pickups also pick all the dirt and sludge at the bottom of >>> the tank. You would not believe the amount of gunk in those tanks (I cut >>> old ones up for smokers). >>> >>> And no matter what kind of fuel you use, the starter motor battery is a >>> common point of failure as is charger. I like to remote the battery into >>> the heated building if there is a heated building. Generac was infamous for >>> supplying a charger that failed and you didn't know until you needed. >>> >>> I started putting telemetry on all starter motor batteries on all >>> generators. That is the most important bit of data you need to monitor. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup >>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 9:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PSA - check your generators! >>> >>> Propane >>> >>> On 4/3/2016 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>>> I've had a handful of generators that always started on the first pull. >>>> Until today. Got another one for the site but started tearing apart the >>>> old one and I think it's a bad carb, something I'll have someone else take >>>> a look at. >>>> >>>> Mine are all sitting inside doing nothing, they're portable with two >>>> wheels but require two people or a ramp to put in the truck. I don't know >>>> if I'd buy these size units again but I really do like the 8.5 gallons and >>>> 24 hour run time... >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>> >>> >> > > >
