I would have thought it would be 3.2% like your “beer”.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 12:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PSA - check your generators!
In Utah, one of our larger gas station chains sells ethanol free at the pump.
From: George Skorup
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PSA - check your generators!
Yup. If you have a marina near you, they will most likely have ethanol-free
gas. You'll pay a little bit more for it though. We keep a couple cheap gas
inverter generators around for spares, but we primarily use the Yamaha w/
propane.
My truck is apparently so carbon'd up that I cannot run the E10/87 (87 octane
my ass) without knocking and the PCM retarding the timing. I'm running some
Shell Nitro with extra detergent added to try to clean it up. If I could find
some of the old GM Top Engine Cleaner, I'd do that, but the EPA banned it. So
they give us shit gas and no means to clean it. There's nowhere near enough
detergent in any of the regular gasolines. I'm not pulling the heads to clean
the cylinders, F that. I did find out that my truck shuts down at 98MPH too.
Lame.
On 4/4/2016 12:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
The labels say no ethanol!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 4, 2016 12:57 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
We've started our little Yamaha on a 20# tank at -15F before. It can be a
bitch to get started because of the protection valves in tanks now. We had one
old tank without the valve and it would fire up on the first pull every time.
Now it takes 5-6 pulls using the choke to get that valve open.
One thing I found out with all of my truck woes and shit gasoline is that
small/carb engines were never designed to run the ethanol blends. The ethanol
is corrosive to non-stainless fuel systems. This is why all FlexFuel certified
systems are stainless delivery, injector rails, etc.
On 4/4/2016 8:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yeah, I have run lots of propane generators. Here are a few problems.
Temperature. If it is -20F outside, you have to have a very very large
tank to generate enough vapor to keep the generator running.
Conversely you can use a liquid pickup and a vaporizer but you need heat
energy for the vaporizer to get the thing started.
And liquid pickups also pick all the dirt and sludge at the bottom of the
tank. You would not believe the amount of gunk in those tanks (I cut old ones
up for smokers).
And no matter what kind of fuel you use, the starter motor battery is a
common point of failure as is charger. I like to remote the battery into the
heated building if there is a heated building. Generac was infamous for
supplying a charger that failed and you didn't know until you needed.
I started putting telemetry on all starter motor batteries on all
generators. That is the most important bit of data you need to monitor.
-----Original Message----- From: George Skorup
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 9:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PSA - check your generators!
Propane
On 4/3/2016 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I've had a handful of generators that always started on the first pull.
Until today. Got another one for the site but started tearing apart the old
one and I think it's a bad carb, something I'll have someone else take a look
at.
Mine are all sitting inside doing nothing, they're portable with two
wheels but require two people or a ramp to put in the truck. I don't know if
I'd buy these size units again but I really do like the 8.5 gallons and 24 hour
run time...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
