The SAS doesn't even exist yet, right? Seems like the FCC got paralyzed for
awhile by Carrier desire to use 3.65 for LTE-U
On Apr 15, 2016 8:43 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> OK, fair warning, I am going by memory, but I thought the FCC was very
> specific that PALs would be 10 MHz licenses.
>
> So if you had 2 PALs in the same area, or were using GAA, could you
> request and receive a 20 MHz contiguous allocation from the SAS?  I guess
> maybe, although I would be very surprised.  And if you got lucky and the
> SAS assigned you 2 x 10 MHz adjacent channels, I think that could change at
> any time.
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2016 8:16 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs
>
> Have we actually heard anything official on 10 MHz vs. more or is that
> just a WAG based on 10 MHz licenses? I would assume the SAS would support
> larger channels.
>
>
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> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:10:45 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs
>
> Are you talking licensed spectrum, or 3.65 GHz?
>
> Going forward, I don't think we should plan on 20 MHz channels in
> 3550-3700
> MHz, even now under Part 90 rules it is somewhat unrealistic.  If you are
> talking about aggregating non contiguous 10 MHz channels, that's different.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Moffett
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:05 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs
>
> Are we talking about LTE or Wimax?
>
> Of the 4 Wimax systems I've used, the Compact is probably the worst.
> I'm assured that all of my problems are fixed when we upgrade to LTE.
>
> I'm not sure I trust the opinions on LTE.  People are very focused on
> the NLOS performance, and they are still experiencing the "wow" factor
> of getting a connection working in a weird place that seems like it
> shouldn't work.  I haven't seen much conversation about whether the
> connection you get is something supportable.  Wimax always had the
> problem that if the customer tells you something is wrong you have a
> hard time proving whether there is or isn't a problem without going on
> site.  I don't know if LTE on the compact really changes that
> situation.  I do know the Gemtek CPE still has no damn ethernet stats.
>
> In LTE the AP can use a 20mhz channel at 64QAM and get close to a
> hundred meg aggregate on that.  You can pay a license fee for dual
> carrier mode and use 2 x 20mhz channels to double that.  With MU-MIMO at
> some future date they expect to double that.  So best case is 400meg (I
> believe).  Since using 40mhz might not be practical, divide that by what
> you can actually use.
>
> They do have a capacity planning spreadsheet if you can get in touch
> with someone who has it.
>
>
>
> On 4/13/2016 1:08 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for the on topic content.
> >
> > Would those of you here who have played enough with the telrad gear
> please
> > explain to me the realities of things like capacity per ap/channel/mhz,
> > distance capability (ie link budget), and the like?  Ie what should
> really
> > be on a spec sheet.
> >
> > I'm still trying to dig through the marketing spin to understand the
> real
> > capabilities of these units.
> >
>
>
>
>

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