Had that conversation before: Toledo Tracon: 23Mike, climb and maintain 8000’ 23M: Unable due to icing Toledo: 23 Mike, Detroit needs you at 8000’ 23M: We are going to pick up ice at 8000’, unable Toledo: 23 Mike, climb and maintain 8000’ 23M: leaving 6 for 8
4 minutes later: 23M: Toledo, 23M is declaring an emergency, leaving 8000 for 6000 Toledo: 23M, if able maintain 6000, state your intentions. 23M: Not collecting ice Grrr… Mark > On Apr 28, 2016, at 3:56 PM, Bruce Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I had a whole lot more altitude capability, but I was at 17k, ATC was denying > me FL180, and I only had an O2 cannula, not a mask. Which is needed above > FL180. Fortunately I was near enough my destination that I could start > descending. The wings shed all the ice during the descent. Oh, and i wasn't > near gross weight, whew! Definitely saw the airspeed decrease, though. > > On 04/28/2016 12:51 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >> That is what I think of as sphincter exercise. Nothing like being in the >> freezing clouds, at gross weight, at or near maximum altitude, and watching >> the ice grow on the leading edge. Oh dear. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 4/28/2016 12:47 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: >>> I've managed to avoid that so far, thank you very much. Most I've gotten >>> is about a half inch of mixed, and that scared the @#$% out of me. >>> >>> On 04/28/2016 12:46 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> Not sure I would trust it. >>>> >>>> Once you get an inch of ice from supercooled liquid droplets, your >>>> worldview on ice changes... >>>> >>>> From: Bruce Robertson <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:40 PM >>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Durable ice repellents >>>> >>>> Lemme rephrase... a passive anti-ice that doesn't require refilling or >>>> inflating with air. And doesn't mean "don't fly in clouds." :-) >>>> >>>> On 04/28/2016 12:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> TKS >>>>> >>>>> From: Bruce Robertson <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:07 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Durable ice repellents >>>>> >>>>> I'm interested in it as a pilot. Gimme wings that don't ice up! >>>>> >>>>> On 04/28/2016 08:29 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>>> This is the wrong time of year for this, but it sure would help for a >>>>>> lot of equipment icing issues some of you guys see in the winter time. >>>>>> >>>>>> This describes a polymer plus lubricant that can make a "durable" anti >>>>>> ice coating. >>>>>> Hey Chuck, bet you are interested in this? >>>>>> https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-process-encourages-ice-slip-slide-away >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-process-encourages-ice-slip-slide-away> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> !DSPAM:2,572269ae156489778211817! >
