If the local ILEC or a resident wants to force the issue, I think the developer 
will have to grant them access to all public utility easements etc.  

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 4:23 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

As for ROI the developer wants to give us an exclusive right and not put in 
copper for phone or TV ;) The take rate should be pretty high because their 
other option will be our wireless service. 

Sean


On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  You will probably get 80% if you are the best value.
  And you don’t the full costs for homes that don’t take the service.  No CPE, 
no enclosure, no drop, no sfp.  

  Say $2500/customer.

  Say you clear $40/month.

  40*12=480
  480/2500 = 19.2%  return from day one forever.

  What kind of mutual fund will give you a return like that?

  From: Eric Kuhnke 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:10 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

  That math assumes an immediate 100% takeup rate...


  On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Josh Luthman 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

    1630/65 = 25 

    Internet isn't going away, it's like water and power.  The next 25 months 
and the 25 months after that...



    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373


    On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

      I don't see how the math works (at $150k and 92 homes) if the cost per 
unit served is $1630 per house. And your initial penetration rate will be far, 
far less than 100% of homes for monthly services. Even after 3-4 years a 
significant percentage may never sign up. Where's the ROI?



      On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Chuck McCown 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

        Figure one handhole per 2 homes.  So 46 handholes.

        1.25” between all handholes.
        .75” duct from each handhole to each dwelling for drops.  
        You can run 144 count fiber for spares.
        Drop down to 96 or 48 count as it tapers going down the runs.  

        You will need a cabinet with a distribution panel, electronics, 
batteries. 
        It will need power.  

        To go cheap, use a large cisco router with SFPs ports and SFP to each 
dwelling with a media converter at the ends.  
        Or put in Calix.  You can go GPON or Active.  With something this 
small, I would do Active.  

        You will have $150 to $200K in before you are done.  

        From: Sean Heskett 
        Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:38 PM
        To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); ; 
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]'); 
        Subject: [AFMUG] potential FTTH build

        Hello, 

        We are in talks with a developer who is planning a subdivision on a ~50 
acre lot for 92 homes and he wants us to deliver FTTH.  Is there anyone on this 
list who would like to consult with us so that we can get the plan done right 
from the get go?  The developer will be doing all the trenching and conduit 
etc., we will be doing all the electronics and customer service etc.

        Best regards,

        Sean



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