nothing special, dell C2100's.... looks like these settings are getting to be 
more common in stuff designed for high density data center install. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 

> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 12:14:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

> Wow that's cool! What kind of hardware are they?

> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] >
> wrote:

>> It would be interesting to note that, we are putting in some new servers, 
>> and in
>> the bios these have a setting that delays a random amount of time between 50 
>> -
>> 120seconds, before returning to power on state after a power loss .....

>> :)

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>> From: "Chuck McCown" < [email protected] >
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:40:09 PM

>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

>>> I remembering being at a data center on a hot summer day. Power went out,
>>> generator started. Things were fine... then all the air conditioners 
>>> switched
>>> on at the same time. Actually stalled the generator. We had to put 
>>> sequencers
>>> on the AC.
>>> From: Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:20 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures
>>> FYI, Electrical Code (NECA) and most datacenters require the power not to be
>>> loaded beyond 80% of breaker capacity... i.e. 16amp draw on a 20amp circuit.
>>> Additionally, one also has to have head room on the power circuit to deal 
>>> with
>>> start up draw (current rush). It's not pretty when you have a crap load of
>>> servers starting up all together
>>> :)
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" < [email protected] >
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 7:50:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

>>>> How does a 44U cabinet need 208V 60A for storage arrays?

>>>> In a 4U chassis the max hard drives (front and rear) is about 60 x 3.5"...

>>>> Say each drive is 7.5W TDP, that's 450W of drives. Add another 200W for
>>>> controller/motherboard and fans. 650W in 4U.

>>>> 44 / 4 = 11

>>>> Multply by 650

>>>> 7150W

>>>> More realistically with a normal amount of drives (like 40 per 4U) a 
>>>> single 208
>>>> 30A is sufficient,

>>>> 208 x 30 = 6240W

>>>> Run at max 0.85 load on the circuit, so

>>>> 6240 x 0.85 = 5304W

>>>> In a really dense 2.5" environment all of the above is of course invalid, 
>>>> you
>>>> could probably need up to 7900W per cabinet
>>>> Then there's 52U cabinets as well...
>>>> On May 13, 2016 6:16 PM, "Paul Stewart" < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>> Yup … general trends on new data centers are pushing those temperatures 
>>>>> higher
>>>>> for efficiency but also with better designs ..

>>>>> One of our data centers runs at 78F and have no issues – each cabinet is
>>>>> standard 208V 30A as you mention but can go per cabinet much higher if 
>>>>> needed
>>>>> (ie. 208V 60A for storage arrays)

>>>>> From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
>>>>> Sent: May 11, 2016 5:15 PM

>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

>>>>> There have been some fairly large data set studies done shown that air 
>>>>> intake
>>>>> temperature for huge numbers of servers, at 77-78F does not correlate 
>>>>> with a
>>>>> statistically significant rate of failure.

>>>>> http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/09/18/intel-servers-do-fine-with-outside-air/

>>>>> http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/03/23/too-hot-for-humans-but-google-servers-keep-humming/

>>>>> how/what you do for cooling is definitely dependent on the load. 
>>>>> Designing a
>>>>> colo facility to use a full 208V 30A circuit per cabinet (5.5kW) in a 
>>>>> hot/cold
>>>>> air separated configuration is very different than 'normal' older 
>>>>> facilities
>>>>> that are one large open room.

>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>>> I’m not sure you can answer the question without knowing the max heat 
>>>>>> load per
>>>>>> cabinet and how you manage airflow in the cabinets.

>>>>>> AFAIK it used to be standard practice to keep data centers as cold as 
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> without requiring people to wear parkas, but energy efficiency is a
>>>>>> consideration now.

>>>>>> From: That One Guy /sarcasm

>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:51 PM

>>>>>> To: [email protected]

>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

>>>>>> apparently 72 is the the ideal for our noc, i set our thermostat to 60 
>>>>>> and it
>>>>>> always gets turned back to 72, so i just say fuck it, I wanted new gear 
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> racks anyway

>>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Larry Smith < [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed May 11 2016 15:37, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>> > Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center. Our really nice
>>>>>>> > building that Sprint ditched ranges from 60 to 90F (on a site 
>>>>>>> > monitor).

>>>>>>> I try to keep my NOC room at about 62F, that puts many of the CPU's
>>>>>>> at 83 to 90F. Many of the bigger places I visit will generally be 55 to 
>>>>>>> 60F.
>>>>>>> Loads of computers (data center type) are primarily groupings of little
>>>>>>> heaters...

>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Larry Smith
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> --

>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
>>>>>> as part
>>>>>> of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

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