From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:51 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

oh man, chuck is gonna be that guy

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  Ah ha! 

  I never accepted that bet.  I wanted odds...

  From: Travis Johnson 
  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:30 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

  Why would I give you odds? $100 bet, clean and simple. :)

  Travis


  On 3/21/2016 11:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

    Yeah but I want odds.  2:1?  

    From: Travis Johnson 
    Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:09 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

    I'll put up $100... the bet being that Utah will vote Red, regardless of 
the candidate?

    Travis



    On 3/21/2016 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

      So, are you giving odds?  I have $100.  

      From: Travis Johnson 
      Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

      Utah (and Idaho too) will vote Republican. They can talk and say "we will 
never support Trump"... but at the end of the day, both states will be Red... 
as always.

      I personally have wanted to get rid of the political parties for a LONG 
time... let each candidate say what he will do on every subject, and not be 
associated with these "parties" that really don't mean anything anymore. 
Republicans used to believe "this", but now, 20 years later, they now believe 
"this". The parties have no real value or benefit, other than to keep thousands 
of people employed.

      Travis



      On 3/21/2016 10:44 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

        Polls already show Utah switching to Democratic vote if Trump is GOP 
candidate.



        Have you been watching the news?



        It’s a big deal, and I believe they are right, Utah won’t stand for 
Trump.



        Even if it’s Hilary. 



        And I think Utah in general would be just fine with a Woman president, 
but maybe I’m wrong.



        From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:31 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah



        It's funny that everyone says "You can't say that and win"... yet Utah 
has voted Republican for the last 10 elections (40 years). I think it's a lot 
like Idaho, that many people check the first "Republican" box on the first 
page, and never turn the book to even see who that is or what they even stand 
for.

        Do you really think if Trump wins the nomination that Utah would vote 
for Hillary over Trump? A woman as President, in a state of 50% Mormon, where 
they don't allow women to hold any real leadership positions?

        Trump knows he has Utah and Idaho because they have voted Red for the 
last 40 years.

        Travis

        On 3/21/2016 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

          Would  you want a new CEO of a WISP to be hired from the auto 
insurance industry or perhaps a retired school principal?  



          IMO A chief executive should have some experience with the 
legislative process and some military experience.  

          Foreign policy experience would be something I would look for on a 
resume.  



          Trump has been saying that he doesn’t really mean or believe some of 
the hyperbolic things that have came out of his mouth. 



          I know  the Lt. Gov fairly well here in Utah.  His family are 100 
year ILEC owners.  Have known them for years.  

          This is what he said after the Trump speech:



          "I need to say this, OK, ...and last night Donald Trump did something 
and said something that I never thought I'd see a candidate for president do 
and say, especially someone in the Republican Party."

          "Think about that for a second," Cox told the crowd. "A person 
running for office, in our party, thinks it's OK that if you question his 
politics, he can question your religion. I have a message for the 3 million 
people in Utah for Mr. Donald Trump: That's not how we roll in Utah, and that's 
not how we roll in the United States of America."





          From: Travis Johnson 

          Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:01 AM

          To: [email protected] 

          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah



          It's time for a change... that's the bottom line. Everyone else 
running is a "lifer"... someone that has been in politics or has wanted to be, 
their entire life. Nobody else is going to make any REAL changes. It's time for 
something different. 

          It's also refreshing to have someone say what they REALLY think... 
instead of giving lip service for six months before the election, and then 
having them not do anything that they said. At least Trump is saying what he 
thinks.

          Travis

          On 3/21/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

            He may be super smart and has ideas that really could be good for 
the country.

            He may be a super skilled negotiator.  He may be lots of things.



            He looks like a megalomaniac bully that has no social graces.  I 
don’t care if he was running for the local chamber of commerce, you just cannot 
act like that if you want to represent me and my interests.  



            From: Jaime Solorza 

            Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:20 AM

            To: Animal Farm 

            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah



            Even some Mennonite folks I spoke with in Cauthemoc think Trump is 
bad for US. 

            On Mar 21, 2016 9:07 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

              Trump questioned Romney's faith.  Not something you do in Utah.  



              And Romney is a special case.  He came in and turned around the 
winter Olympics here and really saved the day.    

              Kinda a favorite son.



              From: Kurt Fankhauser 

              Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:47 AM

              To: [email protected] 

              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah



              What happened on Friday?

              Sent from my iPhone 



              Kurt Fankhauser

              Wavelinc Communications

              P.O. Box 126

              Bucyrus, OH 44820

              http://www.wavelinc.com

              tel. 419-562-6405

              fax. 419-617-0110


              On Mar 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

                Latest polls in Utah show:

                Utah, collectively, votes “anyone but Trump”.  

                (Things were not looking great for him but he really shot his 
own dick off on Friday).



                Polls now show, if Trump is the other candidate, he loses.  

                No matter if it is Hillary, Bernie, Ted...  



                Gotta love Utah!















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