We have tons of non-partisan candidates.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 5/23/2016 11:37 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Right, Wisconsin is the same... we have an open primary, so anyone can vote in either primary, but only one or the other (not both). What we're talking about here is just marking the Republican or Democrat box at the top of the ballot instead of voting for each individual candidate... I didn't realize Wisconsin had gotten rid of that until I saw we weren't on the list. I've never heard of it ever being mandatory though.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Jay Weekley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    In Alabama you can only vote for one party but can vote for anyone
    in the main election.

    Josh Reynolds wrote:

        Actually I was incorrect, I thought it was mandatory in some
        states.

        Alabama

        Pennsylvania

        Indiana

        South Carolina

        Iowa

        Texas

        Kentucky

        Utah

        Oklahoma

        ^ All offer "straight-ticket" voting

        On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:49 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        wrote:

            even in the general?

            On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Josh Reynolds
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:

                Some states don't allow that. You for vote a ticket,
                so it's "all or
                nothing".

                On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    there are people who dont vote soley upon party
                    lines you know

                    On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Bill Prince
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                        I would argue that Trump is (at least) a
                        verbal bully; and he sure
                        doesn't
                        like getting caught in a lie (which he seems
                        to do more than anyone
                        else
                        that's been in the race this year, with the
                        possible exception of Ben
                        Carson).

                        I might also argue that Clinton is more
                        conservative than Trump. So the
                        question would be would you vote for Trump
                        because he's a Republican
                        (he's
                        not really), or because he's conservative
                        (he's not that either).


                        bp
                        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

                        On 3/21/2016 10:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

                        Ha!  That is a good  one.

                        I wonder, has Trump ever punched it out with
                        anyone ever?

                        I just don’t see a rich kid having much
                        opportunity to do that...
                        unless
                        he is a bully, but that would be beating
                        someone up while the toadys
                        hold
                        him, not a fair fight.

                        From: Ken Hohhof
                        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:18 AM
                        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

                        Here is Trump as a superhero comic.  The
                        Incredible Trump!  I like his
                        sidekick.


                        From: Chuck McCown
                        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:13 PM
                        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

                        Yeah but I want odds.  2:1?

                        From: Travis Johnson
                        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:09 AM
                        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

                        I'll put up $100... the bet being that Utah
                        will vote Red, regardless
                        of
                        the candidate?

                        Travis


                        On 3/21/2016 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

                        So, are you giving odds?  I have $100.

                        From: Travis Johnson
                        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 AM
                        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

                        Utah (and Idaho too) will vote Republican.
                        They can talk and say "we
                        will
                        never support Trump"... but at the end of the
                        day, both states will be
                        Red... as always.

                        I personally have wanted to get rid of the
                        political parties for a LONG
                        time... let each candidate say what he will do
                        on every subject, and
                        not be
                        associated with these "parties" that really
                        don't mean anything
                        anymore.
                        Republicans used to believe "this", but now,
                        20 years later, they now
                        believe "this". The parties have no real value
                        or benefit, other than
                        to
                        keep thousands of people employed.

                        Travis


                        On 3/21/2016 10:44 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

                        Polls already show Utah switching to
                        Democratic vote if Trump is GOP
                        candidate.



                        Have you been watching the news?



                        It’s a big deal, and I believe they are right,
                        Utah won’t stand for
                        Trump.



                        Even if it’s Hilary.



                        And I think Utah in general would be just fine
                        with a Woman president,
                        but
                        maybe I’m wrong.



                        From: Af [mailto:[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of
                        Travis Johnson
                        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:31 AM
                        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah



                        It's funny that everyone says "You can't say
                        that and win"... yet Utah
                        has
                        voted Republican for the last 10 elections (40
                        years). I think it's a
                        lot
                        like Idaho, that many people check the first
                        "Republican" box on the
                        first
                        page, and never turn the book to even see who
                        that is or what they even
                        stand for.

                        Do you really think if Trump wins the
                        nomination that Utah would vote
                        for
                        Hillary over Trump? A woman as President, in a
                        state of 50% Mormon,
                        where
                        they don't allow women to hold any real
                        leadership positions?

                        Trump knows he has Utah and Idaho because they
                        have voted Red for the
                        last
                        40 years.

                        Travis

                        On 3/21/2016 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

                        Would  you want a new CEO of a WISP to be
                        hired from the auto insurance
                        industry or perhaps a retired school principal?



                        IMO A chief executive should have some
                        experience with the legislative
                        process and some military experience.

                        Foreign policy experience would be something I
                        would look for on a
                        resume.



                        Trump has been saying that he doesn’t really
                        mean or believe some of
                        the
                        hyperbolic things that have came out of his mouth.



                        I know  the Lt. Gov fairly well here in Utah.
                        His family are 100 year
                        ILEC owners.  Have known them for years.

                        This is what he said after the Trump speech:



                        "I need to say this, OK, ...and last night
                        Donald Trump did something
                        and
                        said something that I never thought I'd see a
                        candidate for president
                        do and
                        say, especially someone in the Republican Party."

                        "Think about that for a second," Cox told the
                        crowd. "A person running
                        for
                        office, in our party, thinks it's OK that if
                        you question his politics,
                        he
                        can question your religion. I have a message
                        for the 3 million people
                        in
                        Utah for Mr. Donald Trump: That's not how we
                        roll in Utah, and that's
                        not
                        how we roll in the United States of America."





                        From: Travis Johnson

                        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:01 AM

                        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah



                        It's time for a change... that's the bottom
                        line. Everyone else running
                        is
                        a "lifer"... someone that has been in politics
                        or has wanted to be,
                        their
                        entire life. Nobody else is going to make any
                        REAL changes. It's time
                        for
                        something different.

                        It's also refreshing to have someone say what
                        they REALLY think...
                        instead
                        of giving lip service for six months before
                        the election, and then
                        having
                        them not do anything that they said. At least
                        Trump is saying what he
                        thinks.

                        Travis

                        On 3/21/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

                        He may be super smart and has ideas that
                        really could be good for the
                        country.

                        He may be a super skilled negotiator.  He may
                        be lots of things.



                        He looks like a megalomaniac bully that has no
                        social graces.  I don’t
                        care if he was running for the local chamber
                        of commerce, you just
                        cannot
                        act like that if you want to represent me and
                        my interests.



                        From: Jaime Solorza

                        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:20 AM

                        To: Animal Farm

                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah



                        Even some Mennonite folks I spoke with in
                        Cauthemoc think Trump is bad
                        for
                        US.

                        On Mar 21, 2016 9:07 AM, "Chuck McCown"
                        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        Trump questioned Romney's faith.  Not
                        something you do in Utah.



                        And Romney is a special case.  He came in and
                        turned around the winter
                        Olympics here and really saved the day.

                        Kinda a favorite son.



                        From: Kurt Fankhauser

                        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:47 AM

                        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah



                        What happened on Friday?

                        Sent from my iPhone



                        Kurt Fankhauser

                        Wavelinc Communications

                        P.O. Box 126

                        Bucyrus, OH 44820

                        http://www.wavelinc.com

                        tel. 419-562-6405 <tel:419-562-6405>

                        fax. 419-617-0110 <tel:419-617-0110>


                        On Mar 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown
                        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        Latest polls in Utah show:

                        Utah, collectively, votes “anyone but Trump”.

                        (Things were not looking great for him but he
                        really shot his own dick
                        off
                        on Friday).



                        Polls now show, if Trump is the other
                        candidate, he loses.

                        No matter if it is Hillary, Bernie, Ted...



                        Gotta love Utah!










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