I would argue that Trump is (at least) a verbal bully; and he sure
doesn't
like getting caught in a lie (which he seems to do more than anyone
else
that's been in the race this year, with the possible exception of Ben
Carson).
I might also argue that Clinton is more conservative than Trump. So the
question would be would you vote for Trump because he's a Republican
(he's
not really), or because he's conservative (he's not that either).
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/21/2016 10:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Ha! That is a good one.
I wonder, has Trump ever punched it out with anyone ever?
I just don’t see a rich kid having much opportunity to do that...
unless
he is a bully, but that would be beating someone up while the toadys
hold
him, not a fair fight.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
Here is Trump as a superhero comic. The Incredible Trump! I like his
sidekick.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
Yeah but I want odds. 2:1?
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
I'll put up $100... the bet being that Utah will vote Red, regardless
of
the candidate?
Travis
On 3/21/2016 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
So, are you giving odds? I have $100.
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
Utah (and Idaho too) will vote Republican. They can talk and say "we
will
never support Trump"... but at the end of the day, both states will be
Red... as always.
I personally have wanted to get rid of the political parties for a LONG
time... let each candidate say what he will do on every subject, and
not be
associated with these "parties" that really don't mean anything
anymore.
Republicans used to believe "this", but now, 20 years later, they now
believe "this". The parties have no real value or benefit, other than
to
keep thousands of people employed.
Travis
On 3/21/2016 10:44 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Polls already show Utah switching to Democratic vote if Trump is GOP
candidate.
Have you been watching the news?
It’s a big deal, and I believe they are right, Utah won’t stand for
Trump.
Even if it’s Hilary.
And I think Utah in general would be just fine with a Woman president,
but
maybe I’m wrong.
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
It's funny that everyone says "You can't say that and win"... yet Utah
has
voted Republican for the last 10 elections (40 years). I think it's a
lot
like Idaho, that many people check the first "Republican" box on the
first
page, and never turn the book to even see who that is or what they even
stand for.
Do you really think if Trump wins the nomination that Utah would vote
for
Hillary over Trump? A woman as President, in a state of 50% Mormon,
where
they don't allow women to hold any real leadership positions?
Trump knows he has Utah and Idaho because they have voted Red for the
last
40 years.
Travis
On 3/21/2016 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Would you want a new CEO of a WISP to be hired from the auto insurance
industry or perhaps a retired school principal?
IMO A chief executive should have some experience with the legislative
process and some military experience.
Foreign policy experience would be something I would look for on a
resume.
Trump has been saying that he doesn’t really mean or believe some of
the
hyperbolic things that have came out of his mouth.
I know the Lt. Gov fairly well here in Utah. His family are 100 year
ILEC owners. Have known them for years.
This is what he said after the Trump speech:
"I need to say this, OK, ...and last night Donald Trump did something
and
said something that I never thought I'd see a candidate for president
do and
say, especially someone in the Republican Party."
"Think about that for a second," Cox told the crowd. "A person running
for
office, in our party, thinks it's OK that if you question his politics,
he
can question your religion. I have a message for the 3 million people
in
Utah for Mr. Donald Trump: That's not how we roll in Utah, and that's
not
how we roll in the United States of America."
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
It's time for a change... that's the bottom line. Everyone else running
is
a "lifer"... someone that has been in politics or has wanted to be,
their
entire life. Nobody else is going to make any REAL changes. It's time
for
something different.
It's also refreshing to have someone say what they REALLY think...
instead
of giving lip service for six months before the election, and then
having
them not do anything that they said. At least Trump is saying what he
thinks.
Travis
On 3/21/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
He may be super smart and has ideas that really could be good for the
country.
He may be a super skilled negotiator. He may be lots of things.
He looks like a megalomaniac bully that has no social graces. I don’t
care if he was running for the local chamber of commerce, you just
cannot
act like that if you want to represent me and my interests.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:20 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
Even some Mennonite folks I spoke with in Cauthemoc think Trump is bad
for
US.
On Mar 21, 2016 9:07 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
Trump questioned Romney's faith. Not something you do in Utah.
And Romney is a special case. He came in and turned around the winter
Olympics here and really saved the day.
Kinda a favorite son.
From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
What happened on Friday?
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110
On Mar 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
Latest polls in Utah show:
Utah, collectively, votes “anyone but Trump”.
(Things were not looking great for him but he really shot his own dick
off
on Friday).
Polls now show, if Trump is the other candidate, he loses.
No matter if it is Hillary, Bernie, Ted...
Gotta love Utah!