there are people who dont vote soley upon party lines you know
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would argue that Trump is (at least) a verbal bully; and he sure doesn't
> like getting caught in a lie (which he seems to do more than anyone else
> that's been in the race this year, with the possible exception of Ben
> Carson).
>
> I might also argue that Clinton is more conservative than Trump. So the
> question would be would you vote for Trump because he's a Republican (he's
> not really), or because he's conservative (he's not that either).
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 3/21/2016 10:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Ha! That is a good one.
>
> I wonder, has Trump ever punched it out with anyone ever?
>
> I just don’t see a rich kid having much opportunity to do that... unless
> he is a bully, but that would be beating someone up while the toadys hold
> him, not a fair fight.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 11:18 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>
> Here is Trump as a superhero comic. The Incredible Trump! I like his
> sidekick.
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 12:13 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>
> Yeah but I want odds. 2:1?
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 11:09 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>
> I'll put up $100... the bet being that Utah will vote Red, regardless of
> the candidate?
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 3/21/2016 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> So, are you giving odds? I have $100.
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 AM
> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>
> Utah (and Idaho too) will vote Republican. They can talk and say "we will
> never support Trump"... but at the end of the day, both states will be
> Red... as always.
>
> I personally have wanted to get rid of the political parties for a LONG
> time... let each candidate say what he will do on every subject, and not be
> associated with these "parties" that really don't mean anything anymore.
> Republicans used to believe "this", but now, 20 years later, they now
> believe "this". The parties have no real value or benefit, other than to
> keep thousands of people employed.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 3/21/2016 10:44 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>
> Polls already show Utah switching to Democratic vote if Trump is GOP
> candidate.
>
>
>
> Have you been watching the news?
>
>
>
> It’s a big deal, and I believe they are right, Utah won’t stand for Trump.
>
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> Even if it’s Hilary.
>
>
>
> And I think Utah in general would be just fine with a Woman president, but
> maybe I’m wrong.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [ <[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:31 AM
> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>
>
>
> It's funny that everyone says "You can't say that and win"... yet Utah has
> voted Republican for the last 10 elections (40 years). I think it's a lot
> like Idaho, that many people check the first "Republican" box on the first
> page, and never turn the book to even see who that is or what they even
> stand for.
>
> Do you really think if Trump wins the nomination that Utah would vote for
> Hillary over Trump? A woman as President, in a state of 50% Mormon, where
> they don't allow women to hold any real leadership positions?
>
> Trump knows he has Utah and Idaho because they have voted Red for the last
> 40 years.
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/21/2016 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Would you want a new CEO of a WISP to be hired from the auto insurance
> industry or perhaps a retired school principal?
>
>
>
> IMO A chief executive should have some experience with the legislative
> process and some military experience.
>
> Foreign policy experience would be something I would look for on a
> resume.
>
>
>
> Trump has been saying that he doesn’t really mean or believe some of the
> hyperbolic things that have came out of his mouth.
>
>
>
> I know the Lt. Gov fairly well here in Utah. His family are 100 year
> ILEC owners. Have known them for years.
>
> This is what he said after the Trump speech:
>
>
>
> "I need to say this, OK, ...and last night Donald Trump did something and
> said something that I never thought I'd see a candidate for president do
> and say, especially someone in the Republican Party."
>
> "Think about that for a second," Cox told the crowd. "A person running for
> office, in our party, thinks it's OK that if you question his politics, he
> can question your religion. I have a message for the 3 million people in
> Utah for Mr. Donald Trump: That's not how we roll in Utah, and that's not
> how we roll in the United States of America."
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:01 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>
>
>
> It's time for a change... that's the bottom line. Everyone else running is
> a "lifer"... someone that has been in politics or has wanted to be, their
> entire life. Nobody else is going to make any REAL changes. It's time for
> something different.
>
> It's also refreshing to have someone say what they REALLY think... instead
> of giving lip service for six months before the election, and then having
> them not do anything that they said. At least Trump is saying what he
> thinks.
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/21/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> He may be super smart and has ideas that really could be good for the
> country.
>
> He may be a super skilled negotiator. He may be lots of things.
>
>
>
> He looks like a megalomaniac bully that has no social graces. I don’t
> care if he was running for the local chamber of commerce, you just cannot
> act like that if you want to represent me and my interests.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 9:20 AM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>
>
>
> Even some Mennonite folks I spoke with in Cauthemoc think Trump is bad for
> US.
>
> On Mar 21, 2016 9:07 AM, "Chuck McCown" < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Trump questioned Romney's faith. Not something you do in Utah.
>
>
>
> And Romney is a special case. He came in and turned around the winter
> Olympics here and really saved the day.
>
> Kinda a favorite son.
>
>
>
> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 8:47 AM
>
> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>
>
>
> What happened on Friday?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>
> Kurt Fankhauser
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> On Mar 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Latest polls in Utah show:
>
> Utah, collectively, votes “anyone but Trump”.
>
> (Things were not looking great for him but he really shot his own dick off
> on Friday).
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> Polls now show, if Trump is the other candidate, he loses.
>
> No matter if it is Hillary, Bernie, Ted...
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> Gotta love Utah!
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