Ohhh, ohhh, me me me I wanna be an outlaw!!! On May 23, 2016 5:24 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I’m just tired of the media making it sound like having a server is a bad > thing. > > When servers are outlawed, only outlaws will have servers. > > > *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2016 5:11 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > To me it is a non issue other than that sensitive info that was supposed > to stay on secured government servers. I doubt she gave that much > thought. Was probably trying to establish a channel that would not be > subject to FOIA etc. Wanted a bit of privacy. Ran afoul of multiple > regs. To me it was not nefarious, just a bit dumb. > > *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2016 4:04 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > Why does everyone focus on having her own server? It seems to me the > issue is using a non-government email account. How is it worse because she > had someone set up a server to host the account? That mildly impresses me. > > Would it have been all good if she had been using a GMail account? > > > *From:* Andy Trimmell <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2016 3:15 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > I’d love to read what Hillary is conservative in? Buying email servers? > Funny read. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2016 1:18 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > > I would argue that Trump is (at least) a verbal bully; and he sure doesn't > like getting caught in a lie (which he seems to do more than anyone else > that's been in the race this year, with the possible exception of Ben > Carson). > > I might also argue that Clinton is more conservative than Trump. So the > question would be would you vote for Trump because he's a Republican (he's > not really), or because he's conservative (he's not that either). > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 3/21/2016 10:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Ha! That is a good one. > > > > I wonder, has Trump ever punched it out with anyone ever? > > > > I just don’t see a rich kid having much opportunity to do that... unless > he is a bully, but that would be beating someone up while the toadys hold > him, not a fair fight. > > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 11:18 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > > Here is Trump as a superhero comic. The Incredible Trump! I like his > sidekick. > > > > > > *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 12:13 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > > Yeah but I want odds. 2:1? > > > > *From:* Travis Johnson <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 11:09 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > > I'll put up $100... the bet being that Utah will vote Red, regardless of > the candidate? > > Travis > > On 3/21/2016 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > So, are you giving odds? I have $100. > > > > *From:* Travis Johnson <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > > Utah (and Idaho too) will vote Republican. They can talk and say "we will > never support Trump"... but at the end of the day, both states will be > Red... as always. > > I personally have wanted to get rid of the political parties for a LONG > time... let each candidate say what he will do on every subject, and not be > associated with these "parties" that really don't mean anything anymore. > Republicans used to believe "this", but now, 20 years later, they now > believe "this". The parties have no real value or benefit, other than to > keep thousands of people employed. > > Travis > > On 3/21/2016 10:44 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > Polls already show Utah switching to Democratic vote if Trump is GOP > candidate. > > > > Have you been watching the news? > > > > It’s a big deal, and I believe they are right, Utah won’t stand for Trump. > > > > Even if it’s Hilary. > > > > And I think Utah in general would be just fine with a Woman president, but > maybe I’m wrong. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Travis Johnson > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:31 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > > It's funny that everyone says "You can't say that and win"... yet Utah has > voted Republican for the last 10 elections (40 years). I think it's a lot > like Idaho, that many people check the first "Republican" box on the first > page, and never turn the book to even see who that is or what they even > stand for. > > Do you really think if Trump wins the nomination that Utah would vote for > Hillary over Trump? A woman as President, in a state of 50% Mormon, where > they don't allow women to hold any real leadership positions? > > Trump knows he has Utah and Idaho because they have voted Red for the last > 40 years. > > Travis > > On 3/21/2016 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Would you want a new CEO of a WISP to be hired from the auto insurance > industry or perhaps a retired school principal? > > > > IMO A chief executive should have some experience with the legislative > process and some military experience. > > Foreign policy experience would be something I would look for on a > resume. > > > > Trump has been saying that he doesn’t really mean or believe some of the > hyperbolic things that have came out of his mouth. > > > > I know the Lt. Gov fairly well here in Utah. His family are 100 year > ILEC owners. Have known them for years. > > This is what he said after the Trump speech: > > > > "I need to say this, OK, ...and last night Donald Trump did something and > said something that I never thought I'd see a candidate for president do > and say, especially someone in the Republican Party." > > "Think about that for a second," Cox told the crowd. "A person running for > office, in our party, thinks it's OK that if you question his politics, he > can question your religion. I have a message for the 3 million people in > Utah for Mr. Donald Trump: That's not how we roll in Utah, and that's not > how we roll in the United States of America." > > > > > > *From:* Travis Johnson <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:01 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > > It's time for a change... that's the bottom line. Everyone else running is > a "lifer"... someone that has been in politics or has wanted to be, their > entire life. Nobody else is going to make any REAL changes. It's time for > something different. > > It's also refreshing to have someone say what they REALLY think... instead > of giving lip service for six months before the election, and then having > them not do anything that they said. At least Trump is saying what he > thinks. > > Travis > > On 3/21/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > He may be super smart and has ideas that really could be good for the > country. > > He may be a super skilled negotiator. He may be lots of things. > > > > He looks like a megalomaniac bully that has no social graces. I don’t > care if he was running for the local chamber of commerce, you just cannot > act like that if you want to represent me and my interests. > > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 9:20 AM > > *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > > Even some Mennonite folks I spoke with in Cauthemoc think Trump is bad for > US. > > On Mar 21, 2016 9:07 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Trump questioned Romney's faith. Not something you do in Utah. > > > > And Romney is a special case. He came in and turned around the winter > Olympics here and really saved the day. > > Kinda a favorite son. > > > > *From:* Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 8:47 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah > > > > What happened on Friday? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > Kurt Fankhauser > > Wavelinc Communications > > P.O. Box 126 > > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > > http://www.wavelinc.com > > tel. 419-562-6405 > > fax. 419-617-0110 > > > On Mar 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Latest polls in Utah show: > > Utah, collectively, votes “anyone but Trump”. > > (Things were not looking great for him but he really shot his own dick off > on Friday). > > > > Polls now show, if Trump is the other candidate, he loses. > > No matter if it is Hillary, Bernie, Ted... > > > > Gotta love Utah! > > > > > > > > > > >
