Why does everyone focus on having her own server? It seems to me the
issue is using a non-government email account. How is it worse
because she had someone set up a server to host the account? That
mildly impresses me.
Would it have been all good if she had been using a GMail account?
*From:* Andy Trimmell <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2016 3:15 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
I’d love to read what Hillary is conservative in? Buying email
servers? Funny read.
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2016 1:18 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
I would argue that Trump is (at least) a verbal bully; and he sure
doesn't like getting caught in a lie (which he seems to do more than
anyone else that's been in the race this year, with the possible
exception of Ben Carson).
I might also argue that Clinton is more conservative than Trump. So
the question would be would you vote for Trump because he's a
Republican (he's not really), or because he's conservative (he's not
that either).
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/21/2016 10:26 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Ha! That is a good one.
I wonder, has Trump ever punched it out with anyone ever?
I just don’t see a rich kid having much opportunity to do that...
unless he is a bully, but that would be beating someone up while
the toadys hold him, not a fair fight.
*From:*Ken Hohhof <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, March 21, 2016 11:18 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
Here is Trump as a superhero comic. The Incredible Trump! I like
his sidekick.
*From:*Chuck McCown <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, March 21, 2016 12:13 PM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
Yeah but I want odds. 2:1?
*From:*Travis Johnson <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, March 21, 2016 11:09 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
I'll put up $100... the bet being that Utah will vote Red,
regardless of the candidate?
Travis
On 3/21/2016 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
So, are you giving odds? I have $100.
*From:*Travis Johnson <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, March 21, 2016 10:58 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
Utah (and Idaho too) will vote Republican. They can talk and
say "we will never support Trump"... but at the end of the
day, both states will be Red... as always.
I personally have wanted to get rid of the political parties
for a LONG time... let each candidate say what he will do on
every subject, and not be associated with these "parties" that
really don't mean anything anymore. Republicans used to
believe "this", but now, 20 years later, they now believe
"this". The parties have no real value or benefit, other than
to keep thousands of people employed.
Travis
On 3/21/2016 10:44 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Polls already show Utah switching to Democratic vote if
Trump is GOP candidate.
Have you been watching the news?
It’s a big deal, and I believe they are right, Utah won’t
stand for Trump.
Even if it’s Hilary.
And I think Utah in general would be just fine with a
Woman president, but maybe I’m wrong.
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
*Travis Johnson
*Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:31 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
It's funny that everyone says "You can't say that and
win"... yet Utah has voted Republican for the last 10
elections (40 years). I think it's a lot like Idaho, that
many people check the first "Republican" box on the first
page, and never turn the book to even see who that is or
what they even stand for.
Do you really think if Trump wins the nomination that Utah
would vote for Hillary over Trump? A woman as President,
in a state of 50% Mormon, where they don't allow women to
hold any real leadership positions?
Trump knows he has Utah and Idaho because they have voted
Red for the last 40 years.
Travis
On 3/21/2016 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Would you want a new CEO of a WISP to be hired from
the auto insurance industry or perhaps a retired
school principal?
IMO A chief executive should have some experience with
the legislative process and some military experience.
Foreign policy experience would be something I would
look for on a resume.
Trump has been saying that he doesn’t really mean or
believe some of the hyperbolic things that have came
out of his mouth.
I know the Lt. Gov fairly well here in Utah. His
family are 100 year ILEC owners. Have known them for
years.
This is what he said after the Trump speech:
"I need to say this, OK, ...and last night Donald
Trump did something and said something that I never
thought I'd see a candidate for president do and say,
especially someone in the Republican Party."
"Think about that for a second," Cox told the crowd.
"A person running for office, in our party, thinks
it's OK that if you question his politics, he can
question your religion. I have a message for the 3
million people in Utah for Mr. Donald Trump: That's
not how we roll in Utah, and that's not how we roll in
the United States of America."
*From:*Travis Johnson <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, March 21, 2016 10:01 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
It's time for a change... that's the bottom line.
Everyone else running is a "lifer"... someone that has
been in politics or has wanted to be, their entire
life. Nobody else is going to make any REAL changes.
It's time for something different.
It's also refreshing to have someone say what they
REALLY think... instead of giving lip service for six
months before the election, and then having them not
do anything that they said. At least Trump is saying
what he thinks.
Travis
On 3/21/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
He may be super smart and has ideas that really
could be good for the country.
He may be a super skilled negotiator. He may be
lots of things.
He looks like a megalomaniac bully that has no
social graces. I don’t care if he was running for
the local chamber of commerce, you just cannot act
like that if you want to represent me and my
interests.
*From:*Jaime Solorza
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, March 21, 2016 9:20 AM
*To:*Animal Farm <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
Even some Mennonite folks I spoke with in
Cauthemoc think Trump is bad for US.
On Mar 21, 2016 9:07 AM, "Chuck McCown"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Trump questioned Romney's faith. Not
something you do in Utah.
And Romney is a special case. He came in and
turned around the winter Olympics here and
really saved the day.
Kinda a favorite son.
*From:*Kurt Fankhauser
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, March 21, 2016 8:47 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
What happened on Friday?
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
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On Mar 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Latest polls in Utah show:
Utah, collectively, votes “anyone but Trump”.
(Things were not looking great for him but
he really shot his own dick off on Friday).
Polls now show, if Trump is the other
candidate, he loses.
No matter if it is Hillary, Bernie, Ted...
Gotta love Utah!