Nice. Looks like it won’t be approved for production until September, and who knows when routers will implement it.
Probably a couple years before it’s scale makes it cheap and Mikrotik adopts it… From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5GBASE-T_and_5GBASE-T On Jun 4, 2016 1:45 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: So are you saying there is a standard coming out that can do over 1Gbps over Cat5e? I would like to see that sooner than later. I can’t sell anything above a 1 Gigabit over existing house wire because there are no transceivers or routers that handle more than GigE. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 12:41 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router 802.11ad is going to bring 5Gbps and 10Gbps Ethernet into the mainstream... in about 3-5 years. Most devices aren't but 1x1 or 2x2 on 802.11ac, which drastically limits their bandwidth, even on 80mhz and 80+80 channels. An 8x8 radio on 802.11AC 3rd gen with all clients and the AP capable of MU-MIMO with a bunch of devices on it? Then more than a gig or more than a 1x1G lag makes sense. Those devices will have 5Gbps over copper support using the existing copper, maybe even 2x5Gbps ports. Still, those devices will be plugged into layer3 switches for proper east-west traffic speeds at line rate, that can support POE 802.3at and the 5Gbps over copper rates. They will likely have several 5Gbps ports, and a handful of 25Gbps over copper. You won't see much SFP+ in homes. WAN ports for CPE devices will be limited to 1Gbps for the next few years at a minimum. 5years before you see a 5Gbps WAN port would be my guess, and even then they will be rare. Sources - my own research, and comments from several router manufacturers and FTTH vendors. On Jun 4, 2016 1:18 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: You sound like the guy in 2003 that told me no one will ever need more than 10Mbps, why would a home want an internet connection at 10Mbps. I’m in a business building infrastructure for the next 10-20 years, so this is where I am looking at 10Gbps to the home. There are actual ISP’s that sell 10Gbps connections. I have several customers with a 10Gbps SFP+ connection inside their home already. Do they use it all the time? No, they don’t, not even close. Can they get 9+Gbps on speedtest.net<http://speedtest.net>? Yes, they can. With a desktop computer with a SFP+ card in it. What I want is a high powered wireless router that can do close to 1Gbps wireless (which they have), AND have an SFP+ internet port so it can do over 1Gbps NAT traffic. I suppose IPv6 routed would be a lot easier on the router CPU in the future, so that makes it more likely. They just need to put a SFP+ interface on one of these bad boys: http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC5300-Wireless-Tri-Band-AiProtection-Complete/dp/B0167HG1V6 From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:00 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router There is not a single residential sub who would need a 10 gig home router. That's insane and router manufacturers aren't gonna make one until more isps are selling 10 gig. Anyway it's silly to even think a single home needs a gig. They still only average about the same usage as a 20 mbps wireless sub. Sent from my smartphone. Please excuse any typos. On Jun 4, 2016 2:22 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I was about to get to that actually :) I'm still not sure where his gripe lies. I think it's something along the lines of wanting a 10G "home router". On Jun 4, 2016 1:28 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: thats the reason for the push for 5 and 25 Gbps Ethernet On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I'm quite confused. Can you explain exactly what you want to do, and in your opinion, where the problem lies? On Jun 3, 2016 11:42 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I just find it frustrating that the top of the line ASUS/Netgear/DLINK wireless AC routers can actually do close to 1000Mbps wireless and have 4 GigE ports, but are limited to 1 GigE internet port. Is there a UBNT or other wireless AC super system that can dual transport the wireless to two GigE connections? I’m not even sure that exists yet, or anything wireless over 1Gbps of actual transport? If there were an AP that could handle that on triple stream AC and dump to paired GigE then I guess I could try a Mikrotik CCR as NAT router on SFP+. In fact, I don’t even think I’ve tried testing the limits of NAT/connection tracking on the CCR. I should probably test that out and see how fast it will go. I know it will bridge 9+Gbps on a desktop with a SFP+ card on a browser going to speedtest.net<http://speedtest.net> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 10:24 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router I've got some Telco systems 4x10 on order, but these are for redundant 10G customers of ours. A consumer router with 10G? Not quite. On Jun 3, 2016 10:54 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any high end consumer wireless router with an SFP+ WAN/Internet port out there yet, right?
