Semd Mike Hammett after them. He will get SFP's put on your refrigerator soon. On Jun 4, 2016 11:52 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
> Nice. > > > > Looks like it won’t be approved for production until September, and who > knows when routers will implement it. > > > > Probably a couple years before it’s scale makes it cheap and Mikrotik > adopts it… > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Saturday, June 4, 2016 12:49 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router > > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5GBASE-T_and_5GBASE-T > > On Jun 4, 2016 1:45 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote: > > So are you saying there is a standard coming out that can do over 1Gbps > over Cat5e? > > > > I would like to see that sooner than later. > > > > I can’t sell anything above a 1 Gigabit over existing house wire because > there are no transceivers or routers that handle more than GigE. > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Saturday, June 4, 2016 12:41 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router > > > > 802.11ad is going to bring 5Gbps and 10Gbps Ethernet into the > mainstream... in about 3-5 years. > > Most devices aren't but 1x1 or 2x2 on 802.11ac, which drastically limits > their bandwidth, even on 80mhz and 80+80 channels. An 8x8 radio on 802.11AC > 3rd gen with all clients and the AP capable of MU-MIMO with a bunch of > devices on it? Then more than a gig or more than a 1x1G lag makes sense. > Those devices will have 5Gbps over copper support using the existing > copper, maybe even 2x5Gbps ports. > > Still, those devices will be plugged into layer3 switches for proper > east-west traffic speeds at line rate, that can support POE 802.3at and the > 5Gbps over copper rates. They will likely have several 5Gbps ports, and a > handful of 25Gbps over copper. > > You won't see much SFP+ in homes. WAN ports for CPE devices will be > limited to 1Gbps for the next few years at a minimum. 5years before you see > a 5Gbps WAN port would be my guess, and even then they will be rare. > > Sources - my own research, and comments from several router manufacturers > and FTTH vendors. > > On Jun 4, 2016 1:18 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote: > > You sound like the guy in 2003 that told me no one will ever need more > than 10Mbps, why would a home want an internet connection at 10Mbps. > > > > I’m in a business building infrastructure for the next 10-20 years, so > this is where I am looking at 10Gbps to the home. > > > > There are actual ISP’s that sell 10Gbps connections. > > > > I have several customers with a 10Gbps SFP+ connection inside their home > already. > > > > Do they use it all the time? No, they don’t, not even close. > > > > Can they get 9+Gbps on speedtest.net? > > > > Yes, they can. > > > > With a desktop computer with a SFP+ card in it. > > > > What I want is a high powered wireless router that can do close to 1Gbps > wireless (which they have), AND have an SFP+ internet port so it can do > over 1Gbps NAT traffic. > > > > I suppose IPv6 routed would be a lot easier on the router CPU in the > future, so that makes it more likely. > > > > They just need to put a SFP+ interface on one of these bad boys: > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC5300-Wireless-Tri-Band-AiProtection-Complete/dp/B0167HG1V6 > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl > *Sent:* Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:00 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router > > > > There is not a single residential sub who would need a 10 gig home router. > That's insane and router manufacturers aren't gonna make one until more > isps are selling 10 gig. Anyway it's silly to even think a single home > needs a gig. They still only average about the same usage as a 20 mbps > wireless sub. > > Sent from my smartphone. Please excuse any typos. > > On Jun 4, 2016 2:22 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > > I was about to get to that actually :) I'm still not sure where his gripe > lies. I think it's something along the lines of wanting a 10G "home router". > > On Jun 4, 2016 1:28 AM, "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > thats the reason for the push for 5 and 25 Gbps Ethernet > > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > wrote: > > I'm quite confused. Can you explain exactly what you want to do, and in > your opinion, where the problem lies? > > On Jun 3, 2016 11:42 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote: > > I just find it frustrating that the top of the line ASUS/Netgear/DLINK > wireless AC routers can actually do close to 1000Mbps wireless and have 4 > GigE ports, but are limited to 1 GigE internet port. > > > > Is there a UBNT or other wireless AC super system that can dual transport > the wireless to two GigE connections? > > > > I’m not even sure that exists yet, or anything wireless over 1Gbps of > actual transport? > > > > If there were an AP that could handle that on triple stream AC and dump to > paired GigE then I guess I could try a Mikrotik CCR as NAT router on SFP+. > > > > In fact, I don’t even think I’ve tried testing the limits of > NAT/connection tracking on the CCR. > > > > I should probably test that out and see how fast it will go. > > > > I know it will bridge 9+Gbps on a desktop with a SFP+ card on a browser > going to speedtest.net > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Friday, June 3, 2016 10:24 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ Consumer Wireless Router > > > > I've got some Telco systems 4x10 on order, but these are for redundant 10G > customers of ours. > > A consumer router with 10G? Not quite. > > On Jun 3, 2016 10:54 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote: > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any high end consumer wireless > router with an SFP+ WAN/Internet port out there yet, right? > > > >
