All good information.  Appreciate your sharing.
Did Cambium have anything to say about it?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jerry Head 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 3:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP


  RSSI?
  4-7dBm


  On 6/5/2016 1:17 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
  > What was the average signal difference?
  >
  > Jerry Head wrote:
  >> It absolutely does perform worse on the same link, we just helped a 
  >> friend move an entire site from UBNT to epmp to make use of the sync 
  >> capabilities. We actually had to transfer about 15% of the customers 
  >> to 900 because they would not work at all on epmp.
  >>
  >> On 6/2/2016 4:31 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
  >>> But does it actually perform worse that UBNT 2.4ghz on the same 
  >>> link, or is it maybe just differences in how they calculate signal 
  >>> levels? It doesn't make any sense that two different radios running 
  >>> on the same frequency putting the same amount of power into the same 
  >>> antennas would give significantly different signal levels...
  >>>
  >>> The closest thing I've done to a comparison was playing with a Force 
  >>> 200 2.4ghz in wifi mode... there didn't seem to be a significant 
  >>> difference between it and a PowerBeam connecting to the same AP.
  >>>
  >>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman 
  >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
  >>> wrote:
  >>>
  >>>     And I've tried IT Elite dual pol panels, Force 200 2.4,
  >>>     integrated + reflector for CPEs. Continues to suck.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>     Josh Luthman
  >>>     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
  >>>     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
  >>>     1100 Wayne St
  >>>     Suite 1337
  >>>     Troy, OH 45373
  >>>
  >>>     On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
  >>>
  >>>         I’m thinking more the CPE antennas.
  >>>         *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <mailto:[email protected]>
  >>>         *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:59 PM
  >>>         *To:* [email protected]
  >>>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
  >>>         hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're
  >>>         using kp performance.  With epmp, i think it is bundled
  >>>         antennas...
  >>>
  >>>             ----- Original Message -----
  >>>             *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:[email protected]>
  >>>             *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
  >>>             *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM
  >>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
  >>>             Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be
  >>>             mainly in the antennas.  2.4 GHz from any vendor should
  >>>             penetrate the same, the radio waves don’t care what brand
  >>>             radio launched them.  And I think the difference between
  >>>             the platforms will be most evident in low interference
  >>>             environment where they can achieve their full modulation
  >>>             and throughput. With low SNR, I think it’s kind of like
  >>>             arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for off road racing, neither
  >>>             will be able to show off its capabilities. Receiver
  >>>             sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz won’t matter.
  >>>             *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <mailto:[email protected]>
  >>>             *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM
  >>>             *To:* [email protected]
  >>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
  >>>             Also interested in interference rejection of the pmp450 
  >>>             - is there any (in 2.4)
  >>>             we are getting better foliage penetration with ubnt 2.4
  >>>             than epmp 2.4 - - and from the performance of
  >>>             the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better!
  >>>
  >>>                 ----- Original Message -----
  >>>                 *From:* Matt <mailto:[email protected]>
  >>>                 *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
  >>>                 *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM
  >>>                 *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
  >>>                 We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed. Some
  >>>                 Ubiquiti we tried and
  >>>                 some we inherited as well.  Have some ePMP we have
  >>>                 tested but so far
  >>>                 have not deployed more then couple test links.
  >>>
  >>>                 For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what
  >>>                 are the differences
  >>>                 you have seen in performance?  Interference tolerance
  >>>                 among others?
  >>>
  >>>                 For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what
  >>>                 was the reasoning?
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>
  >

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