Is it possible the ePMP tx power is at the regional maximum while the
ubiquiti tx power was at the hardware maximum?

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Jerry Head <li...@blountbroadband.com>
wrote:

> RSSI?
> 4-7dBm
>
>
> On 6/5/2016 1:17 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>
>> What was the average signal difference?
>>
>> Jerry Head wrote:
>>
>>> It absolutely does perform worse on the same link, we just helped a
>>> friend move an entire site from UBNT to epmp to make use of the sync
>>> capabilities. We actually had to transfer about 15% of the customers to 900
>>> because they would not work at all on epmp.
>>>
>>> On 6/2/2016 4:31 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>>> But does it actually perform worse that UBNT 2.4ghz on the same link,
>>>> or is it maybe just differences in how they calculate signal levels? It
>>>> doesn't make any sense that two different radios running on the same
>>>> frequency putting the same amount of power into the same antennas would
>>>> give significantly different signal levels...
>>>>
>>>> The closest thing I've done to a comparison was playing with a Force
>>>> 200 2.4ghz in wifi mode... there didn't seem to be a significant difference
>>>> between it and a PowerBeam connecting to the same AP.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     And I've tried IT Elite dual pol panels, Force 200 2.4,
>>>>     integrated + reflector for CPEs. Continues to suck.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Josh Luthman
>>>>     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>     1100 Wayne St
>>>>     Suite 1337
>>>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>     On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         I’m thinking more the CPE antennas.
>>>>         *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>>>>         *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:59 PM
>>>>         *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>>>>         hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're
>>>>         using kp performance.  With epmp, i think it is bundled
>>>>         antennas...
>>>>
>>>>             ----- Original Message -----
>>>>             *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>             *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>             *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM
>>>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>>>>             Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be
>>>>             mainly in the antennas.  2.4 GHz from any vendor should
>>>>             penetrate the same, the radio waves don’t care what brand
>>>>             radio launched them.  And I think the difference between
>>>>             the platforms will be most evident in low interference
>>>>             environment where they can achieve their full modulation
>>>>             and throughput. With low SNR, I think it’s kind of like
>>>>             arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for off road racing, neither
>>>>             will be able to show off its capabilities. Receiver
>>>>             sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz won’t matter.
>>>>             *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>>>>             *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM
>>>>             *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>>>>             Also interested in interference rejection of the pmp450
>>>>          - is there any (in 2.4)
>>>>             we are getting better foliage penetration with ubnt 2.4
>>>>             than epmp 2.4 - - and from the performance of
>>>>             the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better!
>>>>
>>>>                 ----- Original Message -----
>>>>                 *From:* Matt <mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
>>>>                 *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>                 *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM
>>>>                 *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>>>>                 We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed. Some
>>>>                 Ubiquiti we tried and
>>>>                 some we inherited as well.  Have some ePMP we have
>>>>                 tested but so far
>>>>                 have not deployed more then couple test links.
>>>>
>>>>                 For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what
>>>>                 are the differences
>>>>                 you have seen in performance?  Interference tolerance
>>>>                 among others?
>>>>
>>>>                 For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what
>>>>                 was the reasoning?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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