Got some basic details for anyone interested.
1. Pricing is annual subscription.
2. PRE pricing is throughput based similar to the appliance based PRE
pricing, with the only difference that virtual is annual based
subscription, as opposed to appliance which is perpetual.
3. List price for the different throughput licenses is 1/3rd that of
perpetual.
4. Same exact SW, no decline in functionality.
5. It runs on standard Dell COTS server, has specific hardware
requirements which have to be met if you're running it on existing
infrastructure.
On 6/21/2016 2:44 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Yes … still hardware sitting in a VM server or cluster etc …
I would suggest talking to them about what traffic you are looking at
doing and compare that to recommended VM configuration … things keep
advancing with vendors shifting customers from appliances to
virtualized but for some vendors it’s been a bumpy ride – can’t
comment specifically on Procera as never used their VM solution due to
scaling concerns right out of the gates.
Also (and don’t’ know this with Procera), for some vendors you lose
features when moving to VM setup …. Juniper is a prime example of
this, where some features last I looked were not moved over …. Of
course over time this will change hence my point ….
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* June 21, 2016 3:29 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities
How does the VM work? Is there still hardware that sits on the network?
On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Simon Westlake <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I haven't priced one yet, but I can get a quote if you're
interested, just hit me off list.
On 6/21/2016 2:02 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote:
Any ideas on how cheap you can get in on the vm. �Thats a
nice way to go for most people i would assume.�
Craig Schmaderer
Cell 402-380-1245
Skywave Wireless, Inc.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:47 PM -0500, "Simon Westlake"
<[email protected]
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They do have a virtualized appliance now, but if you want the
hardware appliance, you still have to buy it. My understanding
of why they stop selling the software is that it still has to
be validated to function on older devices - some of become
unusable because of lack of memory as signatures expanded.
Some of it is lack of desire to continue to support hardware
that they themselves can't source anymore as well, I'm sure -
it's all just x86 stuff.
I don't remember the whole history of the company, they were a
different company name previously and acquired a Swedish
corporation, in the restructure, they became Procera.
On 6/21/2016 12:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
If their product is the subscription service, they don't
hesitate selling the subscription service. $2,500/year is
better than $0/year.
Okay, so then don't cover the hardware anymore, software
only. They should sell software-only to anyone at any time.
Procera has been around for 10 years? Hrm. I'da guessed
four or five.
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Well, one of the things to bear in mind with Procera is
that you are essentially buying the subscription service.
Even though the box isn't cheap, the value of the product
is really the subscription. One of the things that the
support/subscription covers is next day air replacement on
the hardware. So now, you bought some old beat up box off
Ebay, and you want to put it under a support contract, and
things get messy when the hardware fails.
So, I understand their reluctance - but they will do it.
I'm mostly just advising caution because it's a complex
arrangement - you want to make sure the box isn't EOL, you
need to make sure it works, that you can still get
expansion cards for it, etc. Sometimes these boxes on eBay
look like a good deal, but there is a lot of factors to
look at before you buy it, it's not a simple purchase.
That being said, there are some deals to be had, and I've
helped people navigate it, but I've also had to give
people bad news after they snapped up some 10 year old,
EOL unit for a 'steal'.
On 6/21/2016 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I don't understand this mentality from some
companies.� I mean, someone bought this new, and may
have at least hesitated if they knew that the resale
value would immediately be zero.
I guess at least they license used units.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Simon Westlake
<[email protected]
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wrote:
Bear in mind they are not overly enthusiastic
about licensing used boxes
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