Couldn’t you just run it in Xen on a 1U with 2x10G NICs? Then duplicate as you see fit. I assume you could get that rolling for cheap.
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Simon Westlake <[email protected]> wrote: > > Nope, you deploy it into your virtualized environment and away you go. Any > traffic has to pass through the interfaces associated with the VM though. I > personally don't think it's a wonderful solution for a WISP, if you want a > PRE for some massive virtualized deployment of servers, it probably makes > sense, but you're just eating a ton of resources in your VMWare/whatever > environment, and I doubt it is significantly cheaper to purchase. > > On 6/21/2016 2:29 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >> How does the VM work? Is there still hardware that sits on the network? >> >> On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Simon Westlake <[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >> I haven't priced one yet, but I can get a quote if you're interested, just >> hit me off list. >> >> On 6/21/2016 2:02 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: >>> Any ideas on how cheap you can get in on the vm. �Thats a nice way to go >>> for most people i would assume.� >>> >>> Craig Schmaderer >>> Cell 402-380-1245 >>> Skywave Wireless, Inc. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:47 PM -0500, "Simon Westlake" < >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> They do have a virtualized appliance now, but if you want the hardware >>> appliance, you still have to buy it. My understanding of why they stop >>> selling the software is that it still has to be validated to function on >>> older devices - some of become unusable because of lack of memory as >>> signatures expanded. Some of it is lack of desire to continue to support >>> hardware that they themselves can't source anymore as well, I'm sure - it's >>> all just x86 stuff. >>> >>> I don't remember the whole history of the company, they were a different >>> company name previously and acquired a Swedish corporation, in the >>> restructure, they became Procera. >>> >>> On 6/21/2016 12:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>>> If their product is the subscription service, they don't hesitate selling >>>> the subscription service. $2,500/year is better than $0/year. >>>> >>>> Okay, so then don't cover the hardware anymore, software only. They should >>>> sell software-only to anyone at any time. >>>> >>>> Procera has been around for 10 years? Hrm. I'da guessed four or five. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> From: "Simon Westlake" >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');><[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:29:50 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities >>>> >>>> Well, one of the things to bear in mind with Procera is that you are >>>> essentially buying the subscription service. Even though the box isn't >>>> cheap, the value of the product is really the subscription. One of the >>>> things that the support/subscription covers is next day air replacement on >>>> the hardware. So now, you bought some old beat up box off Ebay, and you >>>> want to put it under a support contract, and things get messy when the >>>> hardware fails. >>>> >>>> So, I understand their reluctance - but they will do it. I'm mostly just >>>> advising caution because it's a complex arrangement - you want to make >>>> sure the box isn't EOL, you need to make sure it works, that you can still >>>> get expansion cards for it, etc. Sometimes these boxes on eBay look like a >>>> good deal, but there is a lot of factors to look at before you buy it, >>>> it's not a simple purchase. That being said, there are some deals to be >>>> had, and I've helped people navigate it, but I've also had to give people >>>> bad news after they snapped up some 10 year old, EOL unit for a 'steal'. >>>> >>>> On 6/21/2016 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>> I don't understand this mentality from some companies.� I mean, someone >>>> bought this new, and may have at least hesitated if they knew that the >>>> resale value would immediately be zero. >>>> >>>> I guess at least they license used units. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Simon Westlake <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>> Bear in mind they are not overly enthusiastic about licensing used boxes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Simon Westlake >>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>>> --------------------------- >>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>>> https://sonar.software <https://sonar.software/> >>> >>> -- >>> Simon Westlake >>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>> Email: [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>> --------------------------- >>> Sonar Software Inc >>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>> https://sonar.software <https://sonar.software/> >> -- >> Simon Westlake >> Skype: Simon_Sonar >> Email: [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >> --------------------------- >> Sonar Software Inc >> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >> https://sonar.software <https://sonar.software/> > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_Sonar > Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSS > https://sonar.software <https://sonar.software/>
