How does the VM work? Is there still hardware that sits on the network? On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Simon Westlake <[email protected]> wrote:
> I haven't priced one yet, but I can get a quote if you're interested, just > hit me off list. > > On 6/21/2016 2:02 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: > > Any ideas on how cheap you can get in on the vm. �Thats a nice way to go > for most people i would assume.� > > Craig Schmaderer > Cell 402-380-1245 > Skywave Wireless, Inc. > > > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:47 PM -0500, "Simon Westlake" < > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > > They do have a virtualized appliance now, but if you want the hardware > appliance, you still have to buy it. My understanding of why they stop > selling the software is that it still has to be validated to function on > older devices - some of become unusable because of lack of memory as > signatures expanded. Some of it is lack of desire to continue to support > hardware that they themselves can't source anymore as well, I'm sure - it's > all just x86 stuff. > > I don't remember the whole history of the company, they were a different > company name previously and acquired a Swedish corporation, in the > restructure, they became Procera. > > On 6/21/2016 12:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > If their product is the subscription service, they don't hesitate selling > the subscription service. $2,500/year is better than $0/year. > > Okay, so then don't cover the hardware anymore, software only. They should > sell software-only to anyone at any time. > > Procera has been around for 10 years? Hrm. I'da guessed four or five. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Simon Westlake" <[email protected]> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *To: *[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Sent: *Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:29:50 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] traffic priorities > > Well, one of the things to bear in mind with Procera is that you are > essentially buying the subscription service. Even though the box isn't > cheap, the value of the product is really the subscription. One of the > things that the support/subscription covers is next day air replacement on > the hardware. So now, you bought some old beat up box off Ebay, and you > want to put it under a support contract, and things get messy when the > hardware fails. > > So, I understand their reluctance - but they will do it. I'm mostly just > advising caution because it's a complex arrangement - you want to make sure > the box isn't EOL, you need to make sure it works, that you can still get > expansion cards for it, etc. Sometimes these boxes on eBay look like a good > deal, but there is a lot of factors to look at before you buy it, it's not > a simple purchase. That being said, there are some deals to be had, and > I've helped people navigate it, but I've also had to give people bad news > after they snapped up some 10 year old, EOL unit for a 'steal'. > > On 6/21/2016 12:09 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: > > I don't understand this mentality from some companies.� I mean, someone > bought this new, and may have at least hesitated if they knew that the > resale value would immediately be zero. > > I guess at least they license used units. > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Simon Westlake <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Bear in mind they are not overly enthusiastic about licensing used boxes > > > > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_Sonar > Email: [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software > > > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_Sonar > Email: [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software > > > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_Sonar > Email: [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software > >
