we can deploy BMUs to each site, but theres not any real good
troubleshooting tools or features like mikrotiks have

oh well

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

> Your other option is push it down to the site router. Eventually you
> might end up with an ansible script that can make bandwidth changes at
> both the headend and on the site router to make things more
> manageable.
>
> Centralize shaping is efficient from a management standpoint, it's not
> efficient from a load distribution and end-end control standpoint.
>
> Centralized management of shaping is the best of both worlds.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:17 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > i try to avoid manual CPE rate limiting, if our tech pool was bright,
> might
> > be different
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why not push the shaping down to the radio, in addition to at the
> >> head-end?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:00 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> >>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > I want to account for the customer to customer traffic. the traffic
> has
> >> > to
> >> > traverse the BMUs which are at the edges of the network (theyre just
> >> > another
> >> > OSPF router)
> >> >
> >> > Without changing something, I dont see I can do it, especially where
> >> > redundant rings exist
> >> >
> >> > without specific manual QOS for each customer at the POP mikrotiks I
> >> > also
> >> > cannot control the bandwidth between the customers if the traffic
> doesnt
> >> > pass the BMU
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you explain what you want to do another way?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > I know this is bad form, and very wasteful
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We are bringing up a primary redundancy link today that will
> affect a
> >> >> > large
> >> >> > portion of the network. we dont have alot of customers who connect
> to
> >> >> > one
> >> >> > another. our accounting (powercode BMU) all takes place at our
> >> >> > provider
> >> >> > edges. Is there a filtering trick within OSPF to make all our
> >> >> > customer
> >> >> > traffic destined for our customer IP space traverse the network to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > edge
> >> >> > and back (same subnet excluded)?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I would prefer this be the default action on our network with
> >> >> > explicit
> >> >> > customer allowances.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I cant see any way of doing this on a straight layer three OSPF
> >> >> > network
> >> >> > if
> >> >> > the default route forces the traffic to traverse the router housing
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > destination
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> >> >> > team
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> team
> >> > as
> >> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as
> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



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