I also would go the conduit route.... BUT if you were to go with your
original plan I would use landscape wire
http://www.lowes.com/pd/100-ft-16-Gauge-2-Conductor-Landscape-Lighting-Cable/999921006



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On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:

> I would recommend conduit at least. We have trouble with exposed cat5
> getting chewed on by critters when we lay it through the woods. It'd be a
> bit of labor to pull it through but much more protection. You could do flat
> drop fiber and save enough cost over armored to pay for the conduit.
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It does need to stay "low voltage" because there is no
>> practical/economical way to get an electrical permit to run 600-700 meters
>> of code-compliant 240VAC through this particular section of forest.
>>
>> Interestingly, looking at $/ft prices for cable I have found that
>> 3-conductor 14 gauge UF-NMC (2 + bare copper ground) is less costly per
>> foot than 18 gauge SJOOW. That sort of helps on the voltage drop problem.
>> It's intended for direct burial but in this case would go through a forest
>> taped to an armored fiber cable. In a few years falling leaves and such
>> will cover it.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would also run 240V AC out there, not DC. Unless you are needing to
>>> stay "low voltage" for permit/licensing reasons.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would use 14-2 UF cable, direct buried next to the fiber, or pulled
>>>> into conduit with the fiber if you are doing conduit. That's going to be
>>>> much cheaper than SOOW type rubber jacket cable, or pretty much any other
>>>> options. 1000ft spool costs us about $250, and there are direct bury splice
>>>> kits for it to make a waterproof buried splice.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Due to terrain I'm helping somebody design a network link where a PTP
>>>>> radio will go on the side of a tree on the opposite side of a mountain 
>>>>> from
>>>>> where AC power, a router and other network equipment is located.
>>>>>
>>>>> We're looking at 600 to 700 meters of singlemode fiber and a small
>>>>> NEMA4X junction box with the radio on the far side of the hill, containing
>>>>> a SC-SC patch cable bulkhead and a meanwell DC-DC converter.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like based on the wattage of the radio and voltage drop
>>>>> calculations for 18-2 cable that we can get away with a 56VDC power supply
>>>>> at the power source, dropping to not lower than 35VDC at the receiving 
>>>>> end,
>>>>> which will be fed into a DC-DC converter to bring the output back up to
>>>>> 52.5VDC for the radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you had to run 600-700m of 18AWG cable outdoors through a forest,
>>>>> how would you do it? SJOOW type cable may not hold up over a long enough
>>>>> time. Ideally something that is more armored than SJOOW (it can be much
>>>>> less flexible if needed). Cost is somewhat of a factor.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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