That's more in $/ft than 14-2 UF-NMC cable, which I am seeing at $0.25/ft
from the local Platt electric before any discounts are applied...



On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Jason Wilson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I also would go the conduit route.... BUT if you were to go with your
> original plan I would use landscape wire
> http://www.lowes.com/pd/100-ft-16-Gauge-2-Conductor-Landscape-Lighting-Cable/999921006
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> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I would recommend conduit at least. We have trouble with exposed cat5
>> getting chewed on by critters when we lay it through the woods. It'd be a
>> bit of labor to pull it through but much more protection. You could do flat
>> drop fiber and save enough cost over armored to pay for the conduit.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It does need to stay "low voltage" because there is no
>>> practical/economical way to get an electrical permit to run 600-700 meters
>>> of code-compliant 240VAC through this particular section of forest.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, looking at $/ft prices for cable I have found that
>>> 3-conductor 14 gauge UF-NMC (2 + bare copper ground) is less costly per
>>> foot than 18 gauge SJOOW. That sort of helps on the voltage drop problem.
>>> It's intended for direct burial but in this case would go through a forest
>>> taped to an armored fiber cable. In a few years falling leaves and such
>>> will cover it.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would also run 240V AC out there, not DC. Unless you are needing to
>>>> stay "low voltage" for permit/licensing reasons.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would use 14-2 UF cable, direct buried next to the fiber, or pulled
>>>>> into conduit with the fiber if you are doing conduit. That's going to be
>>>>> much cheaper than SOOW type rubber jacket cable, or pretty much any other
>>>>> options. 1000ft spool costs us about $250, and there are direct bury 
>>>>> splice
>>>>> kits for it to make a waterproof buried splice.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Due to terrain I'm helping somebody design a network link where a PTP
>>>>>> radio will go on the side of a tree on the opposite side of a mountain 
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> where AC power, a router and other network equipment is located.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're looking at 600 to 700 meters of singlemode fiber and a small
>>>>>> NEMA4X junction box with the radio on the far side of the hill, 
>>>>>> containing
>>>>>> a SC-SC patch cable bulkhead and a meanwell DC-DC converter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like based on the wattage of the radio and voltage drop
>>>>>> calculations for 18-2 cable that we can get away with a 56VDC power 
>>>>>> supply
>>>>>> at the power source, dropping to not lower than 35VDC at the receiving 
>>>>>> end,
>>>>>> which will be fed into a DC-DC converter to bring the output back up to
>>>>>> 52.5VDC for the radio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you had to run 600-700m of 18AWG cable outdoors through a forest,
>>>>>> how would you do it? SJOOW type cable may not hold up over a long enough
>>>>>> time. Ideally something that is more armored than SJOOW (it can be much
>>>>>> less flexible if needed). Cost is somewhat of a factor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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