All of my company spend goes through a starwood amex or the chase ink
card.  It's nice when you generate free hotel nights.  The points also have
fewer tax implications than cash back.

As an example,  I just booked five nights at a four star hotel in Berlin
which would have been around 250 a night.   I used 40,000 points which when
you figure it out is about a 3.1% return assuming 1 point per cent of
spend.  Much of the time I get an even better return.
On Jul 6, 2016 1:46 PM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected]> wrote:

good lord! in need to apply for that 2% cash back! we are pumping over
$100k per month to our corp amex

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> I like miles because I can’t spend them.  Dollars back I would spend and
> then when I need to go to the UK to visit my daughter I have to cough up
> the dough.
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:30 PM
> *To:* af <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>
>
> The Citi double cash is 2%.  I used to use it as my everyday spend card.
>
> I am having really good luck with chase ultimate rewards earning cards,
> and also spg earning cards.  With the combination of the chase sapphire,
> freedom,  and freedom unlimited cards for personal and chase ink,  I get
> anywhere between 3% and 10% back in travel rewards (mostly hotels and an
> occasional flight).   But this only works if you travel enough that you can
> redeem for values over 2 cents per point.
>
> With the chase freedom and discover they have revolving bonus categories
> which are 5x points (10% effectively).  We try to buy gift cards to
> maximize this..  for instance,  we're currently watching movies using
> theatre gift cards from the last time the rewards category was movie
> theatres.
>
> Back to the question about whether it makes sense to run cards through
> your own merchant account...  maybe if you're trying to meet a minimum
> spend, or need a few miles to make a reward work,  but I sure can't see
> this making sense on a regular basis.
> On Jul 6, 2016 12:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> What's the 2% personal card if I can ask?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Does the 3% credit card processing fee ($300 on $10k) justify the miles
>>> you will gain? How much is it to just "buy" the same amount of miles?
>>>
>>> Inquiring minds want to know. I use a 2% cashback on everything card for
>>> ALL my personal expenses (groceries, gas, utility bills, cell phone bill,
>>> food, car expenses, etc), and a different business card (also 2% cashback
>>> on every single item) for all my business stuff. Then I just get checks
>>> mailed to me about once a month for the rewards. The miles game always
>>> seemed like a lot of work to track everything, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/6/2016 12:08 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> S Corp
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason Wilson <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 12:07 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>>>
>>> Sole Proprietor? LLC or Corp?  If you are a structured org (llc,Corp)
>>> and you have an invoice for said items then you should be ok.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Credit card kiting* refers to the use of one or more credit cards
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> to obtain cash and
>>> purchasing power they do not have, or pay credit card
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> balances with the proceeds
>>> of other cards. Unlike check kiting
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_kiting>, which is illegal under
>>> nearly all circumstances, laws against credit card kiting are not
>>> completely prohibitive of the practice, thereby allowing it to be done to
>>> some degree. It is up to the banks to detect the practice and when
>>> necessary, stop it.
>>>
>>> In order for prosecution to occur in a credit card kiting scheme, a bank
>>> must prove intent to deceive.[1]
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card_kiting#cite_note-1> Eq seq
>>> reference infers paying credit card minimum balances with credit card
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> proceeds is de facto
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto> evidence of deceit.
>>>
>>> It all will depend on your CC Processor.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason Wilson
>>> Remotely Located
>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>> 530-651-1736
>>> 530-748-9608 Cell
>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't think about the miles thing. I just didn't think they would
>>>> care as they are still getting paid and you'll be out about 3% of the
>>>> charge. The biggest charge I've run through my own cars was about $300. I
>>>> know square used to hold funds over $1000 for some period...like 7 days or
>>>> so? Maybe that is too long, but I seem to remember something like that.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From what came up a while ago you can do that no problem after
>>>>> contacting the merchant but IPPay doesn't allow those shenanigans.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am thinking of doing this for about $10K and really don’t want to
>>>>>> get money or systems locked up.
>>>>>> I can also run it through my ecommerce site and I have a quick books
>>>>>> merchant account too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Cameron Crum <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:50 AM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've run my own card on my own account before a couple of times for
>>>>>> testing and for paying myself for something as well. I'm not sure they
>>>>>> really care, but I haven't read the AUP in like 4 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cameron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This has been covered here before.  I am considering buying
>>>>>>> something from my own company.  Have Jenny run my personal card on her
>>>>>>> company square reader.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure if that violates any kind of AUP.  Hate to get her merchant
>>>>>>> account shut down.  It is a woman owned business with her owning more 
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> half.  I don’t technically work there.  I am not on the payroll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How risky is this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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