Friend moved to Florida last year.  I see his weather posts.  That weather
looks like complete hell even if you have an office AC job.  For working
outside I'd GTFO in a week.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:

> I dont live in FL... lol
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> *not available to weird places that have beautiful weather all the time
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> good lord! in need to apply for that 2% cash back! we are pumping over
>>> $100k per month to our corp amex
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like miles because I can’t spend them.  Dollars back I would spend
>>>> and then when I need to go to the UK to visit my daughter I have to cough
>>>> up the dough.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 1:30 PM
>>>> *To:* af <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Citi double cash is 2%.  I used to use it as my everyday spend card.
>>>>
>>>> I am having really good luck with chase ultimate rewards earning cards,
>>>> and also spg earning cards.  With the combination of the chase sapphire,
>>>> freedom,  and freedom unlimited cards for personal and chase ink,  I get
>>>> anywhere between 3% and 10% back in travel rewards (mostly hotels and an
>>>> occasional flight).   But this only works if you travel enough that you can
>>>> redeem for values over 2 cents per point.
>>>>
>>>> With the chase freedom and discover they have revolving bonus
>>>> categories which are 5x points (10% effectively).  We try to buy gift cards
>>>> to maximize this..  for instance,  we're currently watching movies using
>>>> theatre gift cards from the last time the rewards category was movie
>>>> theatres.
>>>>
>>>> Back to the question about whether it makes sense to run cards through
>>>> your own merchant account...  maybe if you're trying to meet a minimum
>>>> spend, or need a few miles to make a reward work,  but I sure can't see
>>>> this making sense on a regular basis.
>>>> On Jul 6, 2016 12:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's the 2% personal card if I can ask?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the 3% credit card processing fee ($300 on $10k) justify the
>>>>>> miles you will gain? How much is it to just "buy" the same amount of 
>>>>>> miles?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Inquiring minds want to know. I use a 2% cashback on everything card
>>>>>> for ALL my personal expenses (groceries, gas, utility bills, cell phone
>>>>>> bill, food, car expenses, etc), and a different business card (also 2%
>>>>>> cashback on every single item) for all my business stuff. Then I just get
>>>>>> checks mailed to me about once a month for the rewards. The miles game
>>>>>> always seemed like a lot of work to track everything, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/6/2016 12:08 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> S Corp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Jason Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 12:07 PM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sole Proprietor? LLC or Corp?  If you are a structured org (llc,Corp)
>>>>>> and you have an invoice for said items then you should be ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Credit card kiting* refers to the use of one or more credit cards
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> to obtain cash and
>>>>>> purchasing power they do not have, or pay credit card
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> balances with the
>>>>>> proceeds of other cards. Unlike check kiting
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check_kiting>, which is illegal under
>>>>>> nearly all circumstances, laws against credit card kiting are not
>>>>>> completely prohibitive of the practice, thereby allowing it to be done to
>>>>>> some degree. It is up to the banks to detect the practice and when
>>>>>> necessary, stop it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order for prosecution to occur in a credit card kiting scheme, a
>>>>>> bank must prove intent to deceive.[1]
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card_kiting#cite_note-1> Eq
>>>>>> seq reference infers paying credit card minimum balances with credit
>>>>>> card <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card> proceeds is de facto
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto> evidence of deceit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It all will depend on your CC Processor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>>> 530-651-1736
>>>>>> 530-748-9608 Cell
>>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't think about the miles thing. I just didn't think they would
>>>>>>> care as they are still getting paid and you'll be out about 3% of the
>>>>>>> charge. The biggest charge I've run through my own cars was about $300. 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> know square used to hold funds over $1000 for some period...like 7 days 
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> so? Maybe that is too long, but I seem to remember something like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From what came up a while ago you can do that no problem after
>>>>>>>> contacting the merchant but IPPay doesn't allow those shenanigans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am thinking of doing this for about $10K and really don’t want
>>>>>>>>> to get money or systems locked up.
>>>>>>>>> I can also run it through my ecommerce site and I have a quick
>>>>>>>>> books merchant account too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Cameron Crum <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2016 11:50 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Credit card irregularities.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've run my own card on my own account before a couple of times
>>>>>>>>> for testing and for paying myself for something as well. I'm not sure 
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> really care, but I haven't read the AUP in like 4 years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cameron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This has been covered here before.  I am considering buying
>>>>>>>>>> something from my own company.  Have Jenny run my personal card on 
>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>> company square reader.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if that violates any kind of AUP.  Hate to get her
>>>>>>>>>> merchant account shut down.  It is a woman owned business with her 
>>>>>>>>>> owning
>>>>>>>>>> more than half.  I don’t technically work there.  I am not on the 
>>>>>>>>>> payroll.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How risky is this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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