I will tell you that I have gas tubes in my surge suppressors to take care of 
the larger surges that blow the solid state components off the board.  A few of 
my earlier designs didn’t have them but I added them.  

The old 100 Mbps motorola design was not too bad for its day.  It is similar to 
my 444 design but I have the test port and the voltage and load LEDS.  If you 
are doing SMs the test port is pretty handy.  

The newer cambium design and my latest design are very similar in surge 
circuitry but they add a whole bunch of components (all the small components at 
the top of the board) that are related to automated testing and I think perhaps 
extracting a little POE to light a LED.  I think the LED is right above the 
ground mount pad.  There is an LED there, just not sure what it does.  Does it 
light up when POE is applied?

In any event the extra non surge circuitry adds some parasitic loading to each 
data pair (Like 7K transverse metallic loading) and provides additional failure 
paths.  It does not have a gas tube and will allow super large impulses to pass.

The Mimosa only has gas tubes.  They do have a certain delay in ionization.  I 
prefer to use the solid state picosecond acting components as the primary line 
of defense followed by the gas tube.  Belt and suspender approach.  

From: Christopher Gray 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:49 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium's surge protector

I figured I'd open what I had to show see if Chuck might comment on the 
designs. 

I've got the old 100Mbps 600SS on the left, the new 1Gbps Cambium in the 
middle, and the new 1 Gbps Mimosa on the right. I didn't have the 1 Gbps UBNT 
unit, but it is the same electrical design as the Mimosa unit.

To address the original question, the ePMP PoE surge protection is just spark 
gap (on the 100 Mbps units, I never opened a 1Gbps unit). I'd be inclined to 
keep using a surge suppressor, despite the additional install time.

-Chris



On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:

  Just noticed that Cambium has a different surge suppressor.   We had 
purchased a large overstock of 600SS for cheap, and are almost running out.  I 
am probably a bit spoiled on having not paid much for the surge protectors, so 
am going looking.  These are mainly for use with ePMP SMs.  We use Beehive 
protectors for APs



  So, Cambium’s site has these… C000000L033A   
http://s3.amazonaws.com/cambiumstatic/assets/55aeb0aceb1db13311a99ff0/GigabitEthernetSurgeSuppressor_Dec2015.pdf?download



  I have heard some people say that the POE provided with the ePMP SMs included 
surge protection, therefore negating the need for a separate surge protector.



  What sayeth the crowd?



  Paul



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  PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

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