Josh the retail pricing for static IP for TWC is not 20 dollars because 13 statics is about 50 dollars per month which it comes down to about 4 dollars per IP and signal IP is about 10-15 dollars. Frontier 5 statics is about 20 dollars on business DSL.
-----Original Message----- > From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: 08/09/16 02:29 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? > > Your comment was that the "bulk of broadband providers" are in the "$3 > - $5" range. > > I countered that with up to date (as up to date as I could find) > pricing with over 90% of the US broadband market, with some of that > pricing having been consistent since 2011. > > *shrug* > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> > wrote: > > and also look at the pricing on a /29 ... > > IPv4 pricing is not linear, cause how they assign it. > > > > I am not sure what were talking about anymore.. > > > > The original discussion was in regards to Wholesale / Bulk Ip lease and not > > Retail give me an IP for one end user cost price. > > > > Retail price has a few more things built into it... especially cost > > processing (labor) management and tracking.. > > > > Regards. > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > 7266 SW 48 Street > > Miami, FL 33155 > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:19:22 PM > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? > > > >> Comcast (may be old pricing): $15 / mo > >> Comcast business: $20 / mo > >> AT&T: $15 - $40 / mo > >> Verizon Wireless: $500 "one time setup fee" (ZOINKS!, that is the > >> wireless division though...) > >> Verizon FIOS: $20 / mo (depends on bundling options, it's actually > >> more expensive on the higher plans!, see here: > >> https://www.verizon.com/smallbusiness/products/business-FiOS-Internet/packages/ > >> ) > >> CenturyTel: has had $20 / mo pricing since 2011 and possibly before: > >> https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25926181-CenturyTel-20-per-month-fee-for-single-static-IP-address-seem > >> CenturyLink (Qwest network): $10 / mo with $75 setup fee > >> Time Warner: $20 / mo > >> Google Fiber: $20 for 1 /mo, $30 for 5 / mo > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> Yes, but that is direct retail side, and that is most likely reflective of > >>> internal policy.. (running server on a static IP)... thus getting a > >>> premium > >>> for that type of use. > >>> > >>> Bulk of the broadband providers are still in the $3 to $5 / ip range. > >>> > >>> Faisal Imtiaz > >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom > >>> 7266 SW 48 Street > >>> Miami, FL 33155 > >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > >>> > >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:17:45 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? > >>> > >>> The residential ISPs have been preparing for this by charging up to $30/Mo > >>> :( see Google. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Aug 9, 2016 8:54 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> yeah, projections from the same folks who create stock market bubbles ! > >>>> LOL!, there is no shortage of folks making up numbers as needed. > >>>> > >>>> Logically speaking, look at the trending lease price, in the range of $1 > >>>> to $2 /ip /month... which would give a very good clue on purchase price. > >>>> > >>>> For a $300 to $500 per IP valuation, the ongoing lease rate would need to > >>>> be in the $10/$20 /month range. Which I have a hard time visualizing... > >>>> > >>>> Retail rental/lease from Upstream IP transit providers is still running > >>>> somewhere between Free to less than $3-$5/ip/month. Depending on the > >>>> ARPU of > >>>> the BW purchase. > >>>> > >>>> my 2.5 cents worth. > >>>> > >>>> Faisal Imtiaz > >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom > >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street > >>>> Miami, FL 33155 > >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > >>>> > >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> > From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > >>>> > To: [email protected] > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:55:42 AM > >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? > >>>> > >>>> > Reasonable projections (IMO) I have seen are $30 to $40 per IP. I have > >>>> > seen some projections talking $100-$200 per IP. This is a one time fee > >>>> > though, not including RIR transfer and annual fee (much smaller than > >>>> > the cost of the block, based on total allocations to you). > >>>> > > >>>> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Kurt Fankhauser > >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >> $13 per IP on a /24 ???? wow..... > >>>> >> > >>>> >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> He created a toaster?? LOL > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> https://postscapes.com/internet-of-things-history/ > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> Travis > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> On 8/8/2016 8:53 PM, Robert wrote: > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> He can afford to wait a long time.... He was the developer of the > >>>> >>> first > >>>> >>> of one of the major devices on the internet. > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> On 8/8/16 5:24 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> As in a /16 ? he’ll be waiting a long time in my opinion …. (could > >>>> >>> be > >>>> >>> dead wrong there) > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> I monitor prices every so often to “check in” and see what the market > >>>> >>> is > >>>> >>> doing … seen prices drop in the past few months, not sure why – > >>>> >>> guessing > >>>> >>> that it’s because the market is slowing down and/or there are more > >>>> >>> blocks > >>>> >>> coming available > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert > >>>> >>> Sent: August 8, 2016 7:39 PM > >>>> >>> To: [email protected] > >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 for sale? > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> A friend of mine has an unused Class B... But he's going to wait > >>>> >>> for > >>>> >>> $300-500 pricing... LOL... > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> On 8/8/16 3:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> besides ip auctions.com Anyone knows of of ip address sources for > >>>> >>> buying? > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>
