Did your feeble aunt who doesn't know the first thing about realty buy the house? Do you think she felt ripped off after you the expert told her the house has termites and the golf course is actually a farm with the hay cut extra low? If she knew about all that, then sure, not much else to be said.
Remember, this is a question about ethics. It's not about whether you can make the sale, but whether you *should*. It's a big grey area to be sure though and all comes down to what lets you sleep well at night. You go all the way to douche side of the equation and you end up cell mates with some guy named Bernie... On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Something is worth whatever someone will pay for it. > > Eight years ago, contractors were building nice homes in a nice new area, > next to a golf course. They would build it for $600k (total cost for > everything) and then turn around and sell them for $1.2 - $1.4 million. > Were people getting screwed? I think so. Did they still buy them? Yes. > > Travis > > > On 8/22/2016 8:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way... > > It's actually a family member's new last mile connection, where the bill > looks like: > > NRC > $several hundred dollars - CPE radio > $165 - new customer one time installation fee > $80 router purchase > > MRC > $85 monthly for a reasonably high quota service > > I think that the price disparity between the actual market value of the > router ($11 to $15 on ebay with free shipping included in the price) and > what they sold it for is so wide that it's just *wrong*. > > I can see buying a $75 basic 802.11ac router and selling it for $100, or > even $110... But not this. > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Trey Scarborough <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree if they are selling the router along with installing it for $80 >> and they are not selling it as a new router I don't see the problem. Its a >> $10 plus say $10 for shipping and $60 to install it. If that was geek squad >> the bill would probably come out to $300... >> >> I agree if this is a competitor just sell a better faster router for less >> with install. >> >> On 8/22/2016 8:07 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >> >>> If this is your competition, I encourage you to forget about it. Nothing >>> productive will come of it. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016, 7:33 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> That doesn't really answer the questions though. Sounds like the >>> second one kinda... >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2016 7:47 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> A CPE radio was installed and aimed, ubnt PoE injector put in >>> place, and the router connected to the LAN side of the PoE... >>> >>> The CPE radio installation was its own installation service >>> charge and equipment fee separate from the $80 line item for the >>> router. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Josh Luthman >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> If it's sold as new? That's wrong. >>> >>> If it's sold as a service (go to house, install router, >>> leave)? That's fine. >>> >>> If it's sold as a used product? That's fine. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Many WISPs rent routers or sell home wifi routers to >>> their customers. >>> >>> Some routers are used pulls from other customers, get >>> factory defaulted and configured for new customers. >>> >>> Nothing wrong with this. >>> >>> If you saw a WISP that was taking used routers from >>> customer pulls and re-selling them to another customer >>> at $80/piece, and that router was this exact model: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEA >>> R-WNR1000-WIRELESS-N-N150-WIRELESS-ROUTER-RANGEMAX-4-PORT- >>> SWITCH-/171392676852?hash=item27e7ccb3f4:g:D8sAAOSwKPNTzDRY >>> >>> Would you consider it to be ethically questionable? I >>> could not in good conscience sell such a feeble, >>> obsolete $10 router for $80. >>> >>> >>> This is not a 'rented' router, this was an actual >>> purchase line item on a customer invoice. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
