And that is why Google is finally figuring out that wireless is cheaper.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

Fiber has a very long usable life.  Probably 75 years or more.

43 month doubling your money is like 8% ROI.  Not too bad.

Then at month 44 it is infinite ROI.  How can you complain about that?

From: Travis Johnson<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:56 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

That's why telco's and cableco's use a 20 or 30 year ROI.

Travis

On 9/15/2016 3:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Takes a long time to pay 43m back with 500/mo revenue.


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On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:17 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

But how do you pay for your fiber installation if you don't charge $500 for gig 
speeds?

----- Original Message -----
From: Rory Conaway<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

I’ve written about this multiple times and if I remember right Mike, you 
hammered me.

We are also doing marketing tests right now and found that even if CenturyLink 
can’t maintain NetFlix without buffering with a supposed 10Mbps circuit, 
offering 50Mbps at the same price doesn’t get people to change although that’s 
early results.   We are finding price is better.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:40 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city


I remember hearing Chuck Hogg and Gerard Dupont @ Shelby Wireless explain when 
they started fiber they left it wide open for a few months just to see....they 
did not see an unusually large change just because service was wide open....


----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

Back in the early days, I doubled the speeds of all of our customers 2 or 3 
times due to competitive pressures and advancements in Canopy.  I never 
increased the price, just went from 256 to 512 to 1024.  Never saw an increase 
in the bandwidth usage on our uplinks.

What could a Bob and Sally homeowner and their kids do to make a significant 
usage of a Gig?  Of course everyone thinks it is sexy and the next thing  you 
gotta have, but there only so many 4K 3D TVs a person can watch at one time.  I 
guess they could host a server farm etc, but most folks will not even fully 
utilize 50M in the near future.

From: Ken Hohhof<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

Interesting.

Of course, one way to read the numbers is they could “upgrade” all the 110/50 
customers to 1000/1000 and the only change would be $400 less revenue per 
month, and probably no more bandwidth usage.  This is probably the marketing 
approach of most gigabit ISPs.  If some killer app comes out that actually uses 
gigabit speeds, their bluff is called.


From: CBB - Jay Fuller<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:40 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] The latest gig city


One subscriber at the gig level....

http://spectator.org/alabamas-gig-city-has-one-gigabit-broadband-subscriber/

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