RE Google, I don't think it is just a cost thing. I mean they aren't short
on cash.

I suspect the other major factor is time. It takes a long time to build out
fiber to everyone.

Then there's the regulatory challenges they face in every market...

-Hal

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 9:19 PM Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> And that is why Google is finally figuring out that wireless is cheaper.
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> Rory
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:08 PM
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> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
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> Fiber has a very long usable life.  Probably 75 years or more.
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> 43 month doubling your money is like 8% ROI.  Not too bad.
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> Then at month 44 it is infinite ROI.  How can you complain about that?
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> *From:* Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:56 PM
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> *To:* af@afmug.com
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
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> That's why telco's and cableco's use a 20 or 30 year ROI.
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> Travis
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> On 9/15/2016 3:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
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> Takes a long time to pay 43m back with 500/mo revenue.
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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>
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:17 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
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> But how do you pay for your fiber installation if you don't charge $500
> for gig speeds?
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:37 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
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> I’ve written about this multiple times and if I remember right Mike, you
> hammered me.
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> We are also doing marketing tests right now and found that even if
> CenturyLink can’t maintain NetFlix without buffering with a supposed 10Mbps
> circuit, offering 50Mbps at the same price doesn’t get people to change
> although that’s early results.   We are finding price is better.
>
>
>
> Rory
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:40 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
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> I remember hearing Chuck Hogg and Gerard Dupont @ Shelby Wireless explain
> when they started fiber they left it wide open for a few months just to
> see....they did not see an unusually large change just because service was
> wide open....
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:02 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
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> Back in the early days, I doubled the speeds of all of our customers 2 or
> 3 times due to competitive pressures and advancements in Canopy.  I never
> increased the price, just went from 256 to 512 to 1024.  Never saw an
> increase in the bandwidth usage on our uplinks.
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>
>
> What could a Bob and Sally homeowner and their kids do to make a
> significant usage of a Gig?  Of course everyone thinks it is sexy and the
> next thing  you gotta have, but there only so many 4K 3D TVs a person can
> watch at one time.  I guess they could host a server farm etc, but most
> folks will not even fully utilize 50M in the near future.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
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> Interesting.
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>
> Of course, one way to read the numbers is they could “upgrade” all the
> 110/50 customers to 1000/1000 and the only change would be $400 less
> revenue per month, and probably no more bandwidth usage.  This is probably
> the marketing approach of most gigabit ISPs.  If some killer app comes out
> that actually uses gigabit speeds, their bluff is called.
>
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>
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:40 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] The latest gig city
>
>
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> One subscriber at the gig level....
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> http://spectator.org/alabamas-gig-city-has-one-gigabit-broadband-subscriber/
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> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
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