It is what it is, but what it is is what it is. What is it they say? People that can, do and people that cant, teach.
Rf theory aside (which really isn't theory at all its math, and math never changes) theory is for acedemia, and everyone knows acedemia and the real world rarely ever cross paths. On Sep 19, 2016 7:28 PM, "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > i.e. The end justifies the means... Yeah, never thought when I was > young, innocent, and naive that I lived in that kinda country.. Always > thought of that as how Nazi Germany came about... Now I'm just along for > the ride, however short that may remain for me... > > On 09/19/2016 04:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > >> Can't disagree about the theoretical world you mention. >> If that world ever came to fruition, maybe humanity wouldn't be, by >> default, as evil as it is. >> In the mean time, I'm glad the horse I happen to be riding happens to be >> the fastest one in the race, even if it does have colon cancer and a >> recent castration. >> >> >> On Sep 19, 2016 6:42 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com >> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I could accept those statements as fact, but I'm less interested in >> living in a powerful nation than living in one I don't have to be >> ashamed of. >> Secrets to maintain operational security are important, but that's a >> short term thing; in some number of decades they become irrelevant. >> Keeping secrets because we know full well we're doing something >> wrong is....something else. Narcissistic? >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> >> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >> Sent: 9/19/2016 12:58:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Being a good citizen >> >>> +1 >>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 10:52 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Being a good citizen >>> Anyone who believes that any powerful nation gets to be that way >>> by protecting the sovereignty of its citizens is in very much need >>> of a tighter helmet and an ice cream cone. >>> Anyone who believes that any powerful nation gets to be that way >>> by following the terms of international treaties when no one is >>> looking needs fitted for said helmet. >>> People are evil, and it takes evil men with good intentions to >>> ensure that the evil does not become the dominate factor defining >>> humanity in the public eye. >>> He abused his acces, he is a traitor, he should meet his fate as >>> such, let him be a martyr. No good deed goes unpunished, its just >>> the way of humanity. >>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com >>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, you’re jumping to a conclusion that no one cares. I >>> think it falls into the category of two wrongs don’t make a >>> right. Did he see a genuine problem? Probably yes. Did he >>> take the appropriate action? Probably not. And if he was so >>> sure what he did was right, why not stay, defend his actions, >>> and face the consequences? Running off to Russia doesn’t >>> sound very heroic, and it’s hard to argue he needed to hand >>> over as much stolen data as he did to foreign actors in order >>> to make people believe his claims. >>> Tommy Chong deserves more sympathy. >>> *From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 11:12 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Being a good citizen >>> Yes. >>> I think what he did was great. It's disappointing no one >>> cares that our government is taking away rights. >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists >>> <jeffl...@att.net <mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote: >>> >>> Does it make sense that I hate what he did but I'm kinda >>> glad he did it? >>> >>> Jeff Broadwick >>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc. >>> 312-205-2519 <tel:312-205-2519> Office >>> 574-220-7826 <tel:574-220-7826> Cell >>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com >>> <mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com> >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:57 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm >>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Down with Snowden >>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Chuck McCown >>>> <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah, I think Snowden is getting a whitewash courtesy >>>> of hollywood. >>>> *From:* George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com> >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:43 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Being a good citizen >>>> He signed a contract. If he saw things being done >>>> that he believed were against the constitution, then >>>> he should've went to his superiors and said that he >>>> cannot carry out his duties since he feels that they >>>> are unlawful. Then walked out, got a lawyer and said >>>> not a fucking thing about anything classified. He >>>> leaked info that our enemies used against us. He's a >>>> traitor, plain and simple. Not a hero. He deserves no >>>> pardon and no sympathy. >>>> >>>> I'm all for whistle blowing, standing up for the >>>> rights of the people and the spirit of the >>>> constitution and all that, but he went about it >>>> completely the wrong way. And look where it got him. >>>> Idiot. >>>> >>>> On 9/18/2016 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>> >>>>> Snowden “does not work for a Russian organization, >>>>> yet is financially secure thanks to substantial >>>>> savings from his years as a well-paid contractor and >>>>> more recently numerous awards and speaking fees from >>>>> around the world.” 3 years. That’s a lot of >>>>> savings, or he’s eating a lot of ramen noodles. >>>>> I guess Vladimir could let him live there for free >>>>> just to piss off the US. And Russia has good >>>>> hackers of their own (maybe Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear >>>>> will get their own movies), so maybe they haven’t >>>>> needed any help in the recent hacks. Certainly >>>>> Assange seems to be in bed with Pootie-Poot. >>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/a >>>>> rticles/2016/08/01/julian-assange-donald-trump-and-vladimir- >>>>> putin-a-troika-for-our-insane-era.html >>>>> <http://www.thedailybeast.com/ >>>>> articles/2016/08/01/julian-assange-donald-trump-and-vladimir >>>>> -putin-a-troika-for-our-insane-era.html> >>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>>>> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:13 PM >>>>> *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Being a good citizen >>>>> >>>>> You mean Trumpass, Trumpfuck, Trumpshit... worse >>>>> than calling one a chickenshit >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 18, 2016 3:08 PM, "Ken Hohhof" >>>>> <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Pled guilty and spent 9 months in federal prison >>>>> for selling bongs over the Internet. Unlike a >>>>> certain person who fled to Russia rather than >>>>> defend his actions in court, but wants a pardon >>>>> to return. I thought you had to be convicted >>>>> first to be pardoned, but then I remembered >>>>> Gerald Ford preemptively pardoned Richard Nixon. >>>>> Obama might pardon Chong. Snowden will have to >>>>> hope for a pardon from President Trumputin. >>>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza >>>>> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 18, 2016 3:51 PM >>>>> *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Being a good citizen >>>>> >>>>> Cough cough orale. Righteous cause ese >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 18, 2016 2:01 PM, "Chuck McCown" >>>>> <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We the People >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for submitting your signature to >>>>> the We the People petition "Pardon Tommy >>>>> Chong" via WhiteHouse.gov >>>>> <http://whitehouse.gov/>. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Petition Title: Pardon Tommy Chong* >>>>> >>>>> This Petition is written to request that >>>>> Tommy Chong be granted a full Presidential >>>>> Pardon. We believe this to be fair as first >>>>> the nature of the offense was neither >>>>> violent nor the cause of any harm to any >>>>> person or place. Second, we feel this was >>>>> done to make an example of Tommy Chong >>>>> during a period when unfettered persecution >>>>> took place against those who sought to give >>>>> adults the choice of whether they wanted to >>>>> use Cannabis products on a voluntary basis >>>>> either for medical purposes or >>>>> recreationally which is now the law in many >>>>> States and is permissible under the law in >>>>> other States. >>>>> We respectfully request that Tommy Chong be >>>>> granted a full Presidential Pardon and >>>>> submit the signatures of the signees below >>>>> who agree this to be a fair and just act on >>>>> their behalf. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you >>>> don't see your team as part of yourself you have already >>>> failed as part of the team. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see >>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of >>> the team. >>> >> >>
