Gather evidence, attempt to work cooperatively, then name and shame if 
necessary. But yes, that's close to my intention. If you do your homework 
properly, the greater networking community is very powerful and will back you. 
Those companies are largely ones that will work with you. Forget Amazon, Sony, 
etc. though. 

I've heard from people seeing this with Microsoft, Akamai, Limelight and Apple. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:16:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CDN Overload 


Did you just indicate an intention to get a cdn to alter a corporate policy? I 
have a huge satchel, I mean it could probably hold a couple bowling balls, 
reality only fills it with a couple small pecans. Does it hurt? 


On Sep 19, 2016 9:43 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Have you seen a CDN overloading a customer? Help me gather information on the 
issue. 

What CDN? 
What have you identified the traffic to be? 
What is the access network? 
Where is the rate limiting done? 
How is the rate limiting done (policing vs. queueing, SFQ, PFIFO, etc,, etc.)? 
What is doing the rate limiting? 
What is the rate-limit set to? 
Upstream of the rate-limiter, what are you seeing for inbound traffic? 
One connection or many? 
How much traffic? 
How does other traffic behave when exceeding the rate limit? 
Where is NAT performed? 
What is doing NAT? 
Shared NAT or isolated to that customer? 
Have you done a packet capture before and after the rate limiter? The NAT 
device? 
Would you be willing to send a filtered packet capture (only the frames that 
relate to this CDN) to the CDN if they want it? 



There have been reports of CDNs sending more traffic than the customer can 
handle and ignores TCP convention to slow down. Trying to investigate this 
thoroughly so we can get the CDN to fix their system. Multiple CDNs have been 
shown to do this. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 








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