What is the pricing like on the Baicells gear?  Are there recurring
licensing costs?

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:

> Baicells has a 3.65ghz version out that can still be used under the old
> rules.
>
> On Oct 4, 2016 12:09 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> So Baicells offers 2.5GHz and 3.5GHz versions which require a license or
>> arrangement with spectrum holder of these bands?   How are you guys testing
>> these without investing in licenses or permits?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why not? You can still use a 3rd party CPE.....but if you're bringing a
>>> Baicells (or whatever) eNB into the mix then you'll need a separate EPC for
>>> that.
>>>
>>> This was mentioned on the Telrad WISPA list a couple of weeks ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "SmarterBroadband" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: 10/4/2016 12:09:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Why would they do that.  That is one of their selling points, being
>>> standards based???
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>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 1:43 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can use the CPE's in between them as far as I understand.
>>>
>>> What changed with Telrad in the newest release is you can't add a
>>> non-Telrad base station to their EPC....which in turn means you can't use
>>> their system to authenticate/authorize any CPE connected to that non-Telrad
>>> BS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ie: Telrad EPC requires Telrad BS, but other CPE are ok to use.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>
>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>>
>>> Sent: 10/3/2016 11:02:14 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe Telrad did something to break interoperability "recently".
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Monday, October 3, 2016 10:00:38 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>>>
>>> Is Telrad and Baicells interoperable? Do cpes of both work with both BS?
>>> Or is the decision for one of them final? I see pricing of baicells listed
>>> by distributors so I guess they are cheaper than Telrad.
>>>
>>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>> Von: Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>>> Datum: 03.10.2016 15:42 (GMT+01:00)
>>> An: [email protected]
>>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>>>
>>> We're wrestling with the same question here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> M365 is inconsistent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We're testing Telrad LTE.  It's too soon to say much though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>
>>> From: "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Sent: 10/3/2016 6:37:56 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At the moment there are the following options:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TDD LTE (Baicells / Telrad / Huawei)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PMP450 (Cambium)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WiMAX (Cambium/Purewave/Telrad)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> UBNT M365 (Ubiquity)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WiMAX and UBNT do not have any development/future. TDD-LTE claims good
>>> NLOS capabilities. PMP450 claims higher sector capacity with LOS (QAM256).
>>> LTE claims Standards compatibility while there are not much options to
>>> select between. Baicell seem to bring LTE costs down to the Level of PMP450
>>> while both are way above the level of wifi-based 5GHz systems. Baicell is
>>> in a testing/beta stage phase. PMP450 may increase performance/NLOS
>>> capability with cnMedusa next year. Not seen any announcements where
>>> TDD-LTE implementations are heading to next year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We’re still running WiMAX for NLOS as there is no clear path where to go
>>>
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