So, where do we find information on the upcoming changes, including
auctions?  The existing 3650 band is just about wiped out around here
already, due in large part to a company recently acquired by Rise.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Rick Harnish <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Yes, they are going out as fast as they are coming in.  Next order is set
> to arrive in about 10 days.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> *Rick Harnish*
>
> Director of WISP Markets
>
> Baicells Technologies, N.A.
>
> Mobile: +1.972.922.1443
>
> Email: [email protected]
>
> Follow us on Facebook for the latest news
> <https://www.facebook.com/BaiCells>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 5, 2016 1:06 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>
>
>
> are they actually production shipping for true deployment yet?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Rick Harnish <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> MSRP $3799 per eNB
>
> $224.99 per 19.5 dBi UE
>
> $199.99 per 11 dBi UE
>
> $1/UE/month subscription fee for Baicells Cloud EPC
>
> No additional licensing costs
>
>
>
> Check with WAV Online, ISP Supplies Double Radius for firm pricing
>
> In Canada, check with WAV MBSI, Alliance or Crossover
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> *Rick Harnish*
>
> Director of WISP Markets
>
> Baicells Technologies, N.A.
>
> Mobile: +1.972.922.1443
>
> Email: [email protected]
>
> Follow us on Facebook for the latest news
> <https://www.facebook.com/BaiCells>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 5, 2016 2:03 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>
>
>
> What is the pricing like on the Baicells gear?  Are there recurring
> licensing costs?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Baicells has a 3.65ghz version out that can still be used under the old
> rules.
>
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2016 12:09 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> So Baicells offers 2.5GHz and 3.5GHz versions which require a license or
> arrangement with spectrum holder of these bands?   How are you guys testing
> these without investing in licenses or permits?
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Why not? You can still use a 3rd party CPE.....but if you're bringing a
> Baicells (or whatever) eNB into the mix then you'll need a separate EPC for
> that.
>
>
>
> This was mentioned on the Telrad WISPA list a couple of weeks ago.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "SmarterBroadband" <[email protected]>
>
> To: [email protected]
>
> Sent: 10/4/2016 12:09:26 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>
>
>
> Why would they do that.  That is one of their selling points, being
> standards based???
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2016 1:43 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>
>
>
> You can use the CPE's in between them as far as I understand.
>
> What changed with Telrad in the newest release is you can't add a
> non-Telrad base station to their EPC....which in turn means you can't use
> their system to authenticate/authorize any CPE connected to that non-Telrad
> BS.
>
>
>
> Ie: Telrad EPC requires Telrad BS, but other CPE are ok to use.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>
> To: [email protected]
>
> Sent: 10/3/2016 11:02:14 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>
>
>
> I believe Telrad did something to break interoperability "recently".
>
>
>
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>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Monday, October 3, 2016 10:00:38 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>
> Is Telrad and Baicells interoperable? Do cpes of both work with both BS?
> Or is the decision for one of them final? I see pricing of baicells listed
> by distributors so I guess they are cheaper than Telrad.
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
> Datum: 03.10.2016 15:42 (GMT+01:00)
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>
> We're wrestling with the same question here.
>
>
>
> M365 is inconsistent.
>
>
>
> We're testing Telrad LTE.  It's too soon to say much though.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]>
>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>
> Sent: 10/3/2016 6:37:56 AM
>
> Subject: [AFMUG] where is 3,5GHz heading to ?
>
>
>
> At the moment there are the following options:
>
>
>
> TDD LTE (Baicells / Telrad / Huawei)
>
>
>
> PMP450 (Cambium)
>
>
>
> WiMAX (Cambium/Purewave/Telrad)
>
>
>
> UBNT M365 (Ubiquity)
>
>
>
> WiMAX and UBNT do not have any development/future. TDD-LTE claims good
> NLOS capabilities. PMP450 claims higher sector capacity with LOS (QAM256).
> LTE claims Standards compatibility while there are not much options to
> select between. Baicell seem to bring LTE costs down to the Level of PMP450
> while both are way above the level of wifi-based 5GHz systems. Baicell is
> in a testing/beta stage phase. PMP450 may increase performance/NLOS
> capability with cnMedusa next year. Not seen any announcements where
> TDD-LTE implementations are heading to next year.
>
>
>
> We’re still running WiMAX for NLOS as there is no clear path where to go
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

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